I dunno, why or reasons for it all but i guess thats how the corporate circle of life goes.
I think FLEX is a different thing altogether and if Macromedia is betting that FLEX will save them from HOCK, well... they have reallly bigger problems then closing an ANZ office :D
I would seriously doubt MM would close its doors to ANZ office, as we may have a small piece of the overall pie in sales, but surely we still invest loads of $$ and if MM were to pull its ANZ office... i mean name one enterprise that would then go "sure, i'll give you bucketloads of cash over the internet" or talk to you remotely for our primary web-base systems?
i dunno, i know it would really suck and my bet is people will pull MM technology from systems faster then you can say ".NET"
Anywho, GOod luck to Robin, he's got brains he will land on his feet me thinks, and good luck to John o course.
Hopefully the new breed of Macromedia personnel will keep the level of mateship those two previously have with us clients.
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Regards, Scott Barnes - http://www.mossyblog.com http://www.bestrates.com.au Gareth Edwards wrote:
Could it be that Macromedia are having fiancial difficulties following the release of flex which probably hasnt had the sales they needed? Maybe our friends John Treloar and Robin chose to leave Macromedia before a possible disaster arrises? as far as I could tell, John and Robin used to get on well at the Australian Roadshow conferences, who else is no longer working for macromedia? who are the people that have replaced our good friends?
Gareth.
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This from John Biviano
Dear Valued Macromedia Partner,
On behalf of Macromedia ANZ I would like to thank you for your support throughout our Q4. Your assistance allowed us to achieve our forecasted numbers resulting in us finishing our FY2004 on a positive note.
We head into FY2005 with some aggressive growth plans. I am confident with
your continued support we will achieve the objectives set before us.
As I am sure you are aware Macromedia announced two strategic senior management appointments to focus on growing the company's business in large enterprise and the education sector. The new appointments are effective 1 April 2004.
I have been appointed as managing director for Macromedia Australia and New
Zealand. In this position I will be responsible for developing sales,
business, operations, marketing and channel strategies to continue the
current business growth.
John Treloar moves from his trans-Tasman managing director role to the newly created position of education director for the Asia Pacific region. This new role allows John to leverage the successful programs that have been running across Australia and New Zealand to expand usage of Macromedia's products in the education sector across APAC. John will no longer be involved in the day to day business for ANZ (education included), therefore any communication should be directed to myself and the appropriate members of the ANZ team.
Once again, thank you for your continued support.
John
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barry.b wrote:
Scott, what I don't get is (reading between the lines) Robin's position as a technical evaneligist (sp?) has been made redundant.
I'm guessing that it's no way personal (how can it be? he's a hard working straight-talker that knows his stuff) but organisational.
I have no idea the reasons why? i just assumed it was Robins personal choice to move on? is there more to the story? I know Robin has done an outstanding effort for Macromedia not just ANZ but world wide, through his upfront honesty. We Australians can pick most of the time bullshit a mile away, and that was what was good about Robin in that he gave it to you straight and you didn't feel like you were getting fleeced by some corporate suite. Thats something you just can't order in from a Recruitment firm imho.
so how can we trust workshops or product launches without someone like Robin's "cred" attached to it? who'd take it seriously? Who could they get to do as good a job (and if they get someone then clearly there is a need so why let Robin go?)
Maybe he's the whipping-boy because sales ain't as great as MM(US) wants.
But that's just short sightness and not wanting to lay the blame on others
(eg: pricing set by MM US - Breeze and Flex as examples?).
If thats the case, then thats just a sad day for all of us in many ways as we all base our majority of our development skills around some macromedia products.
Its just me but i feel that Macromedia is starting to get more Enterprise focused and less medium business. TQ is regarded as an Enterprise and yet we admit that the price models are hard to swallow and its not because we are doing it tough or are to cheap? rather the opposite.
examples:
(1) At my prev employer (a private RTO) one of things that helped decide to make the swap from teaching ASP to CFMX was the technical support available that gave the org the confidence that it was a correct
decision.
That meant MM/CF licencing went from 1 CF4.5 to 3 new CFMX licences. Robin helped make that sale. His activity on CFAussie (and elsewhere) helped provide that confidence.
Ditto in many ways, thanks to one of Robins launches, i got decided to hangup my CFMX boots for a while and go pro-flash. This later resulted in TQ buying into Flash technology more, which resulting in purchase of Flash Com and maybe FLEX. All pretty much to one guy and his abilitiy to provide ACTUAL information.
(2) (was it really a year ago?) that we (the RTO) recieved an invite by Robin to a FCS and flashcom workshop, held at TQ. It took me a couple of months take-up time before I realised what a brill idea the technology was, and since then tried to get all and sundry enthused. Sure the RTO have yet to purchase any licences for FCS and I've sinced moved on but they are starting to "see the light" - and it all started with Robin "just doing his job".
Not only that, but while he was at TQ, he also helped us with consultation on bestrates.com.au and what not!
so who (and in what position) are going to be doing what Robin did? is anyone? who's going to run workshops? product launches? straighten out the on (and off) -list misguided rumors (like this one)? surely MM(anz) aren't going to fly someone over from the US? and we are all sick of trying to get technical answers from glorified sales managers thrust in front of an audience!
who is going to continue to give us - us who spec a system and tender for jobs - the confidence that using MM product is both long term and
viable.
Australia is NOT a little outpost to the US market. We have timezones, local conditions, local infrastructure ("what do you mean you can't get broadband!?"), local knowledge to consider.
I'm ill-equiped to comment on John Trelor's move within MM(anz) but I can't help feeling we've been shat on from a great height with Robin's departure.
some one please prove me wrong or give us more info than Robin's "so long and thanks for all the fish" email.
I keep hearing that Johns moved on or something like that? where was i when this was announced? whats he doing etc.
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