well, I started with ASP in 1998 (from VB) both commercially and teaching it (at a TAFE level) and I agree with you 100%.
I HATED CF when I first started but am now a convert (stop laughing SarahB!). It IS different and I would have bagged CF bigtime without CFC's (so CF5 wouldn't do). code coupling between "modules" is still too tight for me but the rest works well. but you're talking about ASP classic. The anti is now "upped" to ASP.NET. I'd like to see a comparison of ASP.NET (with it's event driven model) verses CFMX. Now THAT would be interesting cheers barry.b -----Original Message----- From: Ryan Sabir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 29 April 2004 3:24 PM To: CFAussie Mailing List Subject: [cfaussie] Cold Fusion vs ASP Hows that for an incendiary subject line? In my dabblings with ASP, I keep thinking how hard it is to work with , and that Cold Fusion can do the same task so much more easily and logically... There's a whole bunch of stuff that I take for granted with CF, and when I go to ASP, I really miss those features, for example: The IsDefined() function. The ability to say <CFINCLUDE template="#aFilename#.cfm"> (i.e. dynamically supplying the name of an include file) <CFQUERY > vs 4 lines of DB connection crap Much more useful error messages. you get the idea... Then I start to think.. "Well maybe if I was a good ASP programmer then I wouldn't be relying on some of those CF-style programming constructs and would be just as efficient in ASP" So my question to the list is.. Is there anyone here who considers themselves a top-gun ASP programmer, or someone who started in ASP and has now moved to CF, and can say with some authority that Cold Fusion really is a more efficient language. A number that used to be bandied about was that a CF site would take approximately 65% of the development time/cost of an equivalent ASP site. Is that number anywhere near reality if you had 2 programmers equally adept in their development platform? As opposed to a lot of us who I'm sure have fiddled with ASP and gone "Bleahh that looks awful" (i.e. me). seeya! ----------------------- Ryan Sabir Newgency Pty Ltd 2a Broughton St Paddington 2021 Sydney, Australia Ph (02) 9331 2133 Fax (02) 9331 5199 Mobile: 0411 512 454 http://www.newgency.com/index.cfm?referer=rysig --- You are currently subscribed to cfaussie as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MXDU2004 + Macromedia DevCon AsiaPac + Sydney, Australia http://www.mxdu.com/ + 24-25 February, 2004 --- You are currently subscribed to cfaussie as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MXDU2004 + Macromedia DevCon AsiaPac + Sydney, Australia http://www.mxdu.com/ + 24-25 February, 2004
