Geoff, you should know by now that NOTHING that MS does is truly
original (just look at all of .NET for example...)
I laughed when I first saw CFIMPORT taglibs. MS had obviously been
"inspired" again....
but because CF custom tags are really SSI's it makes it hard to access
them at runtime without getting into "chicken and egg problems" (or I'm
not good enough in using taglibs)
something like this
Sub Page_Load(sender as Object, e as EventArgs)
this.reqapprove.deleteButton.Attributes.Add( _
"onClick", "return ConfirmDeletion();" _
)
End Sub
where "reqapprove" is the custom tag. It's not (in this case) adding the
attributes that I'm talking about - it's accessing control members and
properties with simple OO-type "dot" notation.
maybe a display CFC would do this? I dunno, I haven't had time to try -
but it's not built into the CF framework so you'd have to build it
yourself.
just a thought.
barry.b
-----Original Message-----
From: Geoff Bowers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 30 April 2004 12:51 PM
To: CFAussie Mailing List
Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Cold Fusion vs ASP
What I find amusing is that for years CF was bagged as having all these
tag based metaphors for hiding the complexity of the underlying
machinery... now we have ASP.NET claiming that its <asp:datagrid
id="dgDonations" runat="server" /> and other bits (which look an awful
lot like custom tags) are some how revolutionary.
In truth all languages let you beg/borrow/steal libraries of bits -- but
I still am having a hard time finding anything as simple to create and
use as a CF custom tag.
-- geoff
http://www.daemon.com.au/
Barry Beattie wrote:
> Spike, you are right. this is a PITA part of ASP.NET although you can
> create your own from scratch or inherit existing controls and extend
> them. It's more built for org standards than one-offs.
>
> but you get this anywhere where someone else writes how the thing
should
> look - flash controls included. and CFGRID too?
>
> $0.02
> barry.b
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Milligan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, 30 April 2004 10:48 AM
> To: CFAussie Mailing List
> Subject: [cfaussie] RE: Cold Fusion vs ASP
>
> That was exactly my experience a few years ago when I looked at the
web
> matrix (http://www.asp.net/webmatrix/default.aspx?tabIndex=4&tabId=46)
> It
> looks wonderful and allows you to do all these really cool things, but
> when
> you dig a bit deeper and have requirements that go slightly away from
> the
> default behaviour it becomes complicated very quickly. It's a bit like
> using
> JSP tag libraries with a visual IDE. The tag library abstracts the
> complexity for you, but if it doesn't do what you want, you need to
have
> a
> completely different set of skills to modify the library than to use
it.
> That's where I think ColdFusion has the right balance. It doesn't try
to
> do
> too much automatically for you and it provides the tools if you need
to
> create a datagrid custom component/tag.
>
> Spike
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>>James Macpherson
>>Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 4:24 PM
>>To: CFAussie Mailing List
>>Subject: [cfaussie] RE: Cold Fusion vs ASP
>>
>>Hey all -
>>
>>Now I'm no ASP.Net programmer - though I've done a lot of
>>windows application VB.Net - I just remember playing a bit
>>with ASP.Net and I loved all the gotdotnet tutorials that give
>>20 lines of code that do wonderful things with event driven
>>datagrids from server to browser... BUT... at work our
>>designers are very finicky with the way things look, demanding
>>pixel-perfect placement of graphics and form elements - all of
>>which with relative positioning to scale/stretch etc. With
>>coldfusion I'm LOOKING AT the very HTML that ends up in the
>>browser and I couldn't (in the short time I played with it)
>>figure out how to do the same in ASP.Net. Sure you have
>>templates etc. but it seemed to me (and correct me if I'm
>>wrong) that getting a very precise-looking datagrid would
>>require rewriting of the datagrid component. (Which is
>>possible, but it's no longer the drag-and-drop wonder that it
>>was made out to be).
>>
>>
>>That's just my long winded $0.02.
>>
>>- James
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