That was exactly my experience a few years ago when I looked at the web matrix (http://www.asp.net/webmatrix/default.aspx?tabIndex=4&tabId=46) It looks wonderful and allows you to do all these really cool things, but when you dig a bit deeper and have requirements that go slightly away from the default behaviour it becomes complicated very quickly. It's a bit like using JSP tag libraries with a visual IDE. The tag library abstracts the complexity for you, but if it doesn't do what you want, you need to have a completely different set of skills to modify the library than to use it. That's where I think ColdFusion has the right balance. It doesn't try to do too much automatically for you and it provides the tools if you need to create a datagrid custom component/tag.
Spike >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >James Macpherson >Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 4:24 PM >To: CFAussie Mailing List >Subject: [cfaussie] RE: Cold Fusion vs ASP > >Hey all - > >Now I'm no ASP.Net programmer - though I've done a lot of >windows application VB.Net - I just remember playing a bit >with ASP.Net and I loved all the gotdotnet tutorials that give >20 lines of code that do wonderful things with event driven >datagrids from server to browser... BUT... at work our >designers are very finicky with the way things look, demanding >pixel-perfect placement of graphics and form elements - all of >which with relative positioning to scale/stretch etc. With >coldfusion I'm LOOKING AT the very HTML that ends up in the >browser and I couldn't (in the short time I played with it) >figure out how to do the same in ASP.Net. Sure you have >templates etc. but it seemed to me (and correct me if I'm >wrong) that getting a very precise-looking datagrid would >require rewriting of the datagrid component. (Which is >possible, but it's no longer the drag-and-drop wonder that it >was made out to be). > > >That's just my long winded $0.02. > >- James > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Sean A Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Friday, 30 April 2004 4:14 AM >> To: CFAussie Mailing List >> Subject: [cfaussie] RE: Cold Fusion vs ASP >> >> >> On Apr 29, 2004, at 7:03 AM, barry.b wrote: >> > hmmm... a bit thin on real ASP.NET stuff (page 8 and only selected >> > bits). >> > It's pretty obvious the articles author (BF) isn't known as an ASP >> > programmer... >> >> I hadn't read it in detail - I just remembered that Ben had written >> such a comparison. >> >> > I also meant the seperation of server side code and >> presentation that >> > (IMHO) is the neatist around and beats hands-down OTT >> methodologies of >> > FuseBox or Batfink or whatever (see code below). >> >> Hmm, I actually think the code is horribly obtuse and there seems to >> be a lot of low-level machinery in that page just to bind data! >> CF simply >> binds a query to a data grid by name without page load methods and >> other binding calls... >> >> <cfquery datasource="..." name="dataset"> >> ... >> </cfquery> >> <cfform ...> >> <cfgrid query="dataset" name="grid" ... /> </cfform> >> >> Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/ >> >> "There are no solutions, only trade-offs." >> -- Thomas Sowell >> >> >> --- >> You are currently subscribed to cfaussie as: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> To unsubscribe send a blank email to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> MXDU2004 + Macromedia DevCon AsiaPac + Sydney, Australia >> http://www.mxdu.com/ + 24-25 February, 2004 >> > >--- >You are currently subscribed to cfaussie as: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >MXDU2004 + Macromedia DevCon AsiaPac + Sydney, Australia >http://www.mxdu.com/ + 24-25 February, 2004 --- You are currently subscribed to cfaussie as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MXDU2004 + Macromedia DevCon AsiaPac + Sydney, Australia http://www.mxdu.com/ + 24-25 February, 2004
