Robin,

In your own words you have answered the point:-)

"Most of the partners seem to be very busy at present"

And why are they busy, because the jobs that do get advertised don't get
filled as easy, and the partners are busy because there is no one else
learning coldfusion to have these places filled... And how many jobs have
been very short term roles, what does this say to someone who needs to make
a living, what it says to me is don't learn coldfusion as you will not be
able to have a career out of it, and look elsewhere.

Look don't get me wrong, I have been around since Coldfusion V3.0 and I have
seen the job market dwindle down to nothing, and every know and then a job
gets posted, but that job would attract every coldfusion developer needing
work.

But for anyone who wants a career, at the moment coldfusion is not the way
to go unless your lucky enough to find a fulltime position. I love cf for
its ease of use and rapid development but lets face reality here, you can
defend the jobs as being there, but they are not. CF Jobs has posted a
majority of very short term contracts and very little fulltime roles, and as
a developer with a family and who needs to eat and pay the mortgage, how to
you survive between contracts that might be months apart due to others in
the market with the same problem.

And again until the job market really swings to FULL TIME employment this is
the problem with CF, and I did say it's a catch 22 because to get the jobs
out there more business and companies need to look at coldfusion more and
that is where Macromedia has to take action.

No jobs means no work, no work means not prospect of growth.


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Andrew Scott wrote:

> Sean,
> 
> It is all catch 22, if there are no jobs the market suffers. As far as
jobs
> goes I stated to you that the ASP, .Net, and java jobs are increasing in
> Australia and Coldfusion is not.

But why do you say that?  I haven't seen cfjobs this busy before.  When 
Mike said the jobs were dissapearing at NSW CFUG there seemed to be 
general disagreement from the rest of the room.  RocketBoots is short of 
suitable ColdFusion candidates for the jobs we're trying to place.  Most 
of the partners seem to be very busy at present.

> No jobs means moving to the flavour that has the work, ASP and .Net in
> Australia is increasing so people learn this and nothing else.

ASP.NET has come from nothing to something over the last few years, so I 
guess its growth is more noticable than ColdFusion. What about the 
Google results - ColdFusion is increasing just as quickly as .NET in 
Australia and globally.

Robin
http://www.rocketboots.com.au

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