>There is a geniuine perception in a large proportion of web site owners that >.ColdFusion is either dying or will die when Adobe take control.

Mike I've only heard 1 developer say such a thing, peter tilbrooke said it on here once and everyone disagreed, Adobe would be insane to buy out MM then scrap profitable products lol

Adobe needs CF, it gives Adobe an extra strong footing in there PDF market, the Adobe people were very very impressed with CF, this is stated in 1 of the CF 10th birthday recordings,

The same garbage was said when MM took over Allaire, and CF sells more servers now then when allaire was selling it.

As for your other comments/questions I've replied to you off list.

>>also CF has around 10% of all websites

>I do hope you don't mean in the world………what a statement. I'm aghast >if it was!

Neil,

Why are you shocked by 10%
are you shocked in a positive way or a negative way, I hope you meant a positive way.
10% of the Internet is massive
majority of all pages on the web are static HTML.

most big sites like ya yahoo, google, ebay amazon etc aren't CF, ASP, PHP or JSP

Perl and so fourth
although 1 of those .com's has a Coldfusion intranet and also another has a PHP intranet.

Also I believe MM when they say for every CF page on the net they estimate there is 2 on an intranet, as I have worked on more CF intranet applications then CF Internet applications, and most of the companies I've worked for have a website made out of ASP or some crap, but had CF intranet applications
the reason for this that I can gather is (by talking to developers at the company), they got some 3rd party to design there website.

There is over 100 server side languages that sites on the net are made up of, so 10% is a massive %.
CF is never going to be the number one language, the number 1 language will always be an open source free language like PHP or the like,
CF if a specialised product, aimed solely as Rapid web development.

Do I think MM could do more to sell there product? yes.
I worked at a company that used cf5 and the developers told me that they have no plans to upgrade as they can't see any difference between cf5 and cf6.1 (and most developers were java developers)
This is where I think MM could send out an info pack to previous customers each time a new version comes out.
even an email would be a start.

One year I downloaded a MM product, then 3 months later got an invite to a developer conference/product launch, so I went along.
then a year later I checked and found that another product launch had just been on and I had missed it,
So Iemailed MM asking why I never got invited, I was told that they only send out emails to people who have downloaded one of there products within the last year lol.
would make a lot more sense to email everyone who hasn't chose to unsubscribe.

Regards
M@





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