Hi Jim, thanks.  Oh yeah, we got flurries up here in North Andover coming
down already.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 4:56 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [CFCDev] Best Methodology/Framework for building RIA

Welcome, Bill... I assume since you were with Allaire that you're here in
Boston getting ready for the weather?  ;^)

Jim Davis

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Bill Sahlas
> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 3:17 PM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: [CFCDev] Best Methodology/Framework for building RIA
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I worked on the "Royale" project now publicly known as Flex Presentation
> Server (a RIA solution) here at Macromedia and this is worth checking out
> if you haven't seen it already -
> http://www.macromedia.com/software/flex/
> 
> (flex white paper)http://www.macromedia.com/go/flex_tech_wp
> 
> plus, Flash MX 2004 has some new, cool controls that simplify connecting
> to backend data sources, webservice, xml, ...
> 
> BTW - I'm new to the list.  I've been with MACR, formerly Allaire Corp,
> since 1997 and have been working on the CF Team nearly all that time.
> This is a great forum.
> 
> - Bill
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Justin Balog [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 11:47 AM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: [CFCDev] Best Methodology/Framework for building RIA
> 
> 
> I fall into the later category.  I have used Sean's FlashRemotingCFC and
> it
> has worked well for our application thus far.  Mach-ii is pretty popular
> right now (and rightly so), and the posts on www.fusebox.org are
> mentioning
> a better integration with flash in the future release.  By no means do I
> have my finger on the pulse of Mach-ii, but I like it quite a bit, and am
> working on an application using it with Flash.  I do think there are some
> nuances using it with flash, but it seems too effective not to have it
> work
> more cleanly.  Basically keeping my fingers crossed =) Just FYI. I tried
> to
> find the url but Sean has a good article out on Macromedia.com that talks
> about the Facade pattern that they used for macromedia.com.  Seemed like a
> good architecture for flash from those who do it best.  Also, have you
> looked at FLEX?
> 
> Take care,
> 
> Justin
> 
> This a url I found, but I remember there being more?
> http://www.macromedia.com/special/under_the_hood/report1/#coldfusion-flash
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeremy Bruck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 9:40 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [CFCDev] Best Methodology/Framework for building RIA
> 
> 
> Everyone,
> 
> I have been doing quite a bit of research/reading over the course of the
> this week for finding the best methodology/framework for building Rich
> Internet Apps (RIA).
> 
> I have built many apps (even very complex) utilizing Fusebox (all versions
> and even FuseQ).  I have been doing research/testing with Mach II and like
> its use of CFCs, but even Sean Corfeild states that it isn't good for
> developing RIA.  I know that Hal Helms has been looking for a flash
> developer to do the Roulette example with a flash front end though -- not
> sure of the status though.
> 
> Does anyone know of a good framework/methodology that works well with
> building RIA?  Any good examples out there?
> 
> Since we are purely rebuilding a large chunk of our app using CFC's, am I
> better using Mach II and hoping I (or someone) can create an elegant
> solution when we are ready to start creating the Flash stuff (will utilize
> Flash Remoting).  Or should I just use FuseQ (fusebox) with CFC's and know
> I
> will be refactoring again to do the RIA stuff?
> 
> THANK!
> Jeremy
> 
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