The real question in my mind is how simple can a CF-based ORM be? If
extending ActiveRecord.cfc gives me CRUD for free, that's awesome. But
knowing some Ruby and a bit about ActiveRecord in Rails, there's a
*lot* going on under the hood that's easy in Ruby but probably harder
in CF -- not impossible, just harder.

That goes back to the issues: 1) what do we get in Ruby on Rails, 2) can we implement these core features in CF, and 3) do they give CF an advantage that we don't already have in other frameworks.

Unfortunately, I'm not an RoR expert to answer these authoritatively, but I think that this groups best start is to identify the answers to these questions first.  For example, John, when you say that some of the RoR features would "probably [be] harder in CF" -- could you tell me what those are please?  I just don't understant RoR enough to know what would be so difficult about it. 

In the meantime, it looks like I've got some homework to do ;)

Thanks!

-- Ben ----------------------------------------------------------
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