Thanks to everyone for responding so fast.
Marc it was changing cfset from just ODBC_DSN to request.ODBC_DSN.  
Then changing all may code to use request.ODBC_DSN.
At that point I took out the cfInclude lines at the top of the two
offending files and they worked perfectly.

At this point I don't know why 2% of the files needed a cfinclude
application.cfm when request was not used.
That said now that I don't have to worry about it it will save time in
debugging.
Thanks again.

Marc Campeau wrote:
> 
> Could it be that you sometimes include templates in you Application.cfm and
> at other times not?
> 
> Could you have another Application.cfm in a directory below this one and
> that it doesn't declare the variable?
> 
> > > > <cfset ODBC_DSN = "MyODBCName">
> 
> As a suggestion you might consider using an APPLICATION scope variable for
> ODBC_DSN or even a REQUEST scoped variable.
> 
> That would be "cleaner" (that's probably debatable) than setting it to the
> local scope.
> 
> >From the Doc.:
> 
> Application variables are designed to store application-level data. They are
> a convenient place to store information that all pages of your application
> might need no matter who (what client) is running that application. Using
> application variables, an application could initialize itself, say, when the
> first user hit any page of that application. This information could then
> remain available indefinitely to all subsequent hits of any pages of that
> application, by all users, thereby avoiding the overhead of repeated
> initialization.
> 
> Request variables are global to all templates, includes, custom tags used in
> any given request. They are not persistent like Application variables.
> 
> Marc
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