Thanks. I will definitly take a look at the Cert Study Guide. charles arehart wrote: > > First, as great as Mastering CF may be, it's just too huge a book to digest > easily. Same for Ben's Web App Construction Kit. That's what I like about > the Cert Study Guide. Despite any complaints against certs in general, this > is just a good, simple, slim book that covers even intermediate to advanced > topics shortly and sweetly. > > As for the CF docs, well, I offered 3 URLs. :-) First, you're looking in the > Cfusion directory. You won't find them there. The URL for "yourserver" > below would suggest that the docs are in the webroot (typically, where your > CF templates are stored), in a CFDOCS directory. But if you don't have them > (they aren't installed unless you ask, and even then there are security > recommendations against installing them on a production system), that's why > I offered the livedocs.macromedia.com site (for the HTML versions) and the > http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/documentation.html URL for the > PDF's. > > Go to town. The CF Docs are a seriously underused resource. Studio users > should definitely print out and read "Using ColFusion Studio". There's a lot > more to that product than most ever know. > > /charlie > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of Glenn Shukster > Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 5:20 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [CFTALKTor] Application.cfm question > > Thanks for the resource tips Charles > I was 500 pages into Mastering Cold Fusion 5, but had to get some issues > solved fast. They are now resolved more or less so I can go back to > reading again. > > Funny thing is I remeber reading about custom tags and they made sense > at the time. When I go to use it is when I start to scramble for the > resources. Most times I forget where I read it. This happens to me for > evey language that I am new to. > > Where are the CF Docs and what are they called? I looked in the CFusion > directory and found nothing. Maybe I didn't install it right or .. > > charles arehart wrote: > > > > Yes, that means that FileThatNeedsApplicationInclude.cfm is considered a > > custom tag. CF stops what it's doing on the current program, hops out and > > does the FileThatNeedsApplicationInclude.cfm, then returns and continues > > with the program that called the tag. > > > > I must say that if that's not clear, it might be time to visit even a > basic > > book. I'm not saying that to offend, Glenn, I mean only that there may be > > all kinds of things that you're missing out on if you've not come to learn > > about custom tags (meaning other sorts of things like that which are not > > "obvious" things like CFQUERY and CFOUTPUT). It's often said that most > > people don't use but a fraction of CF's features, and that's a shame. > There > > are a number of good books. > > > > I know people will often complain that they haven't got the time to read, > > but one good resource that's small and to the point is Ben Forta's > > "Certified ColdFusion Developer Study Guide". See > > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0789725657/103-7553395-9875801 > > > > And believe it or not, another resource that's right under everyone's nose > > but many miss it is the CF Docs that come with CF. There are printed and > > online versions (that are identical to the print version). There's even > the > > equivalent of a users guide (not the tag reference, since obviously a > custom > > tag isn't one of the predefined tags or functions discussed there). It's > > called "Developing Web Applicaitons with ColdFusion" prior to R5 and > > "Developing ColdFusion Applications" as of CF5. Definitely worth checking > > out. Read it online at livedocs.macromedia.com, or on your server, if the > > docs are installed there, at http://<yourserver>/CFdocs/dochome.htm. The > > PDF of the docs is also available at > > http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/documentation.html > > > > Also, on the matter of just understanding Custom Tags, I have a couple > > articles I did in the CFDJ on the subject that are of value to both > > newcomers and more experienced folks (explaining some aspects of using the > m > > that aren't obvious). See them at www.systemanage.com/cff/articles.cfm. > > Others have written on them, too. Just do a search at the CFDJ on "custom > > tag". > > > > /charlie > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > > Behalf Of Glenn Shukster > > Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 4:22 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [CFTALKTor] Application.cfm question > > > > Hi Charles > > I think it was a called custom tag. However, I don't really know what a > > called custom tag is. > > The code is > > <cf_FileThatNeedsApplicationInclude val="abc"> > > Does that explain it then? > > > > charles arehart wrote: > > > > > > Using the request scope would certainly be the solution if the problem > is > > > that the pages that are failing are being called as custom tags. I'd not > > > recommend using the application scope just for this. Indeed, I wrote an > > > entire article on the reasoning, called "Why It's Wrong to Use > > > Application.dsn in Your Templates" which as in the July CFDJ and is > > > available on my site at www.systemanage.com/cff/articles.cfm > > > > > > Glen, you haven't indicated if the failing code is in a called custom > tag. > > > That would definitely explain it. If it's something else, then it's a > more > > > interesting challenge to resolve. > > > > > > /charlie > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > > > Behalf Of Marc Campeau > > > Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 1:14 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: RE: [CFTALKTor] Application.cfm question > > > > > > Could it be that you sometimes include templates in you Application.cfm > > and > > > at other times not? > > > > > > Could you have another Application.cfm in a directory below this one and > > > that it doesn't declare the variable? > > > > > > > > > <cfset ODBC_DSN = "MyODBCName"> > > > > > > As a suggestion you might consider using an APPLICATION scope variable > for > > > ODBC_DSN or even a REQUEST scoped variable. > > > > > > That would be "cleaner" (that's probably debatable) than setting it to > the > > > local scope. > > > > > > >From the Doc.: > > > > > > Application variables are designed to store application-level data. They > > are > > > a convenient place to store information that all pages of your > application > > > might need no matter who (what client) is running that application. > Using > > > application variables, an application could initialize itself, say, when > > the > > > first user hit any page of that application. This information could then > > > remain available indefinitely to all subsequent hits of any pages of > that > > > application, by all users, thereby avoiding the overhead of repeated > > > initialization. > > > > > > Request variables are global to all templates, includes, custom tags > used > > in > > > any given request. They are not persistent like Application variables. > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > - > > > You are subscribed to the CFUGToronto CFTALK ListSRV. > > > This message has been posted by: "Marc Campeau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To Unsubscribe, Please Visit and Login to http://www.CFUGToronto.org/ > > > Manager: Kevin Towes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > http://www.CFUGToronto.org/ > > > This System has been donated by Infopreneur, Inc. > > > (http://www.infopreneur.net) > > > > > > - > > > You are subscribed to the CFUGToronto CFTALK ListSRV. > > > This message has been posted by: "charles arehart" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To Unsubscribe, Please Visit and Login to http://www.CFUGToronto.org/ > > > Manager: Kevin Towes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > http://www.CFUGToronto.org/ > > > This System has been donated by Infopreneur, Inc. > > > (http://www.infopreneur.net) > > > > -- > > Cheers > > Glenn Shukster (Logic Fundamentals Inc.) Thornhill, Ont. 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