Thanks for the resource tips Charles
I was 500 pages into Mastering Cold Fusion 5, but had to get some issues
solved fast.  They are now resolved more or less so I can go back to
reading again.

Funny thing is I remeber reading about custom tags and they made sense
at the time.  When I go to use it is when I start to scramble for the
resources.  Most times I forget where I read it.  This happens to me for
evey language that I am new to.

Where are the CF Docs and what are they called?  I looked in the CFusion
directory and found nothing.  Maybe I didn't install it right or ..

charles arehart wrote:
> 
> Yes, that means that FileThatNeedsApplicationInclude.cfm is considered a
> custom tag. CF stops what it's doing on the current program, hops out and
> does the FileThatNeedsApplicationInclude.cfm, then returns and continues
> with the program that called the tag.
> 
> I must say that if that's not clear, it might be time to visit even a basic
> book. I'm not saying that to offend, Glenn, I mean only that there may be
> all kinds of things that you're missing out on if you've not come to learn
> about custom tags (meaning other sorts of things like that which are not
> "obvious" things like CFQUERY and CFOUTPUT). It's often said that most
> people don't use but a fraction of CF's features, and that's a shame. There
> are a number of good books.
> 
> I know people will often complain that they haven't got the time to read,
> but one good resource that's small and to the point is Ben Forta's
> "Certified ColdFusion Developer Study Guide". See
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0789725657/103-7553395-9875801
> 
> And believe it or not, another resource that's right under everyone's nose
> but many miss it is the CF Docs that come with CF. There are printed and
> online versions (that are identical to the print version). There's even the
> equivalent of a users guide (not the tag reference, since obviously a custom
> tag isn't one of the predefined tags or functions discussed there). It's
> called "Developing Web Applicaitons with ColdFusion" prior to R5 and
> "Developing ColdFusion Applications" as of CF5. Definitely worth checking
> out. Read it online at livedocs.macromedia.com, or on your server, if the
> docs are installed there,  at http://<yourserver>/CFdocs/dochome.htm. The
> PDF of the docs is also available at
> http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/documentation.html
> 
> Also, on the matter of just understanding Custom Tags, I have a couple
> articles I did in the CFDJ on the subject that are of value to both
> newcomers and more experienced folks (explaining some aspects of using them
> that aren't obvious). See them at www.systemanage.com/cff/articles.cfm.
> Others have written on them, too. Just do a search at the CFDJ on "custom
> tag".
> 
> /charlie
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of Glenn Shukster
> Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 4:22 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [CFTALKTor] Application.cfm question
> 
> Hi Charles
> I think it was a called custom tag.  However, I don't really know what a
> called custom tag is.
> The code is
> <cf_FileThatNeedsApplicationInclude val="abc">
> Does that explain it then?
> 
> charles arehart wrote:
> >
> > Using the request scope would certainly be the solution if the problem is
> > that the pages that are failing are being called as custom tags. I'd not
> > recommend using the application scope just for this. Indeed, I wrote an
> > entire article on the reasoning, called "Why It's Wrong to Use
> > Application.dsn in Your Templates" which as in the July CFDJ and is
> > available on my site at www.systemanage.com/cff/articles.cfm
> >
> > Glen, you haven't indicated if the failing code is in a called custom tag.
> > That would definitely explain it. If it's something else, then it's a more
> > interesting challenge to resolve.
> >
> > /charlie
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> > Behalf Of Marc Campeau
> > Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 1:14 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [CFTALKTor] Application.cfm question
> >
> > Could it be that you sometimes include templates in you Application.cfm
> and
> > at other times not?
> >
> > Could you have another Application.cfm in a directory below this one and
> > that it doesn't declare the variable?
> >
> > > > > <cfset ODBC_DSN = "MyODBCName">
> >
> > As a suggestion you might consider using an APPLICATION scope variable for
> > ODBC_DSN or even a REQUEST scoped variable.
> >
> > That would be "cleaner" (that's probably debatable) than setting it to the
> > local scope.
> >
> > >From the Doc.:
> >
> > Application variables are designed to store application-level data. They
> are
> > a convenient place to store information that all pages of your application
> > might need no matter who (what client) is running that application. Using
> > application variables, an application could initialize itself, say, when
> the
> > first user hit any page of that application. This information could then
> > remain available indefinitely to all subsequent hits of any pages of that
> > application, by all users, thereby avoiding the overhead of repeated
> > initialization.
> >
> > Request variables are global to all templates, includes, custom tags used
> in
> > any given request. They are not persistent like Application variables.
> >
> > Marc
> >
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