dear CFugtoronto.org i received a most interesting email this morning from Michael Smith of Teratech
i am on his mailing list because i pre-registered for a CF conference in washington dc in 2001 (which i did not attend) anyhow, i'm assuming this email was sent out to his Teratech mailing list, all the people who might be interested in attending CFUN02, the fourth annual Teratech coldfusion conference this coming june in washington it was immediately obvious to me, and i am sharing this with all of you, that he lifted the entire text of an email that i posted here on this list in response to Kevin, when Kevin was promoting the recent CFNORTH conference Michael has made it sound like i was talking to him about his conference then, he lifted Kevin's reply to me, edited it substantially to refer to his conference, and made it look like he had replied to me LIAR, LIAR!!! can i call him a liar? will he sue me? i don't care, let him my words are my words, and i own the copyright on them what's worse, he used my actual name, and sent out personal information about me he omitted Kevin's all caps question, which is the only reason i used all caps in my reply (i do not usually shout at people unless they shout at me first), and so casts me in a negative light Kevin, if you did not collaborate in this perversion of etiquette -- it goes without saying that i gave nobody permission -- then i suggest you contact Michael too below is Michaels' message to me, followed by the original message that i posted here, and Kevin's reply to my message i am outraged rudy http://rudy.ca/ -----Original Message----- From: Michael Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: May 23, 2002 10:51 Subject: Why I haven't registered for CFUN-02... >rudy > >A user posted this to a CF ListSRV, and I responded in a way that >I think reflects the spirit of this conference, beyond the technology. >Let me know what you think. > >--- the user responded to the question: Why haven't you registered for >CFUN-02 --- >because i was laid off and i'm still unemployed >this freelancing is not what it's cut out to be >my technical skills are okay, what i cannot seem to be able to do is >drum up the work -- i guess i'm not a salesman >i pay rent and groceries out of an ever-declining savings account >when that's gone, i don't know what's going to happen to my kids >this is no time to be treating myself to a conference > >DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION MICHAEL? > > >--- My Response --- >No Rudy, I don't understand at all. > >you shouldn't consider this conference as a "Treat" it certainly is >not that. Being in the position you are in, especially if you are >freelancing, you need to do a few things to keep building your future >(ColdFusion aside for a sec). > >- Market your skills: CFUN-02 will be a fantastic place to market your >skills, connect with other freelancers, or small companies. Talk >about the market, and talk about where it is going, and what you can >offer it. > >- Upgrade your skills: CFUN-02 really is cheap when you consider what >we have there. ColdFusion courses (2-Day) start around $1200. The >scope of people we have coming to this conference represent all that >is the internet today - starting with ColdFusion, but really goes >beyond that. The Macromedia DevCon in Florida will run you around >$2000 after travel, fees and hotel, JAVAONE in SanFran - over $2500 >and the FlashForward in SanFran is over $2000 !! -- really, $200 is >not much. > >- Look for work: Yea, the market is tight, there is no question about >it. Everyone is taking a hit, but there are companies that are looking >for people, and investing in a conference of this type demonstrates >your willingness and commitment to the market and the community. > >The CFUN-02 weekend should not be considered a "party" or a relaxing >time. It is a time to learn and to mark your place in this industry >and put one foot in front of the other. Freelance work can not be >achieved if you make appearances and get your name out there. > >At the end of the day on Sunday, you will be exhausted. Your mind >should be running off in all directions and you should have a pocket >full of business cards. You will be tired from preparing your >position before the conference, perhaps setting up a portfolio, and >you will be tired from following up with all the leads you are bound >to get. > >This is just my opinion, Family and living is always top priority and >by no means can I relate to your position, but if you are in this >industry, and want to stay in this industry local events like this >one, FlashInTheCan, IMAT, MDCFUG, SIGGRAPH and all the others are >extremely important. > >The reason we are putting so much energy into this conference is to >bring the big names, authors and developers to our city to provide an >opportunity for those folks who don't have the luxury of going to the >big conferences to experience what they offer in spirit, motivation, >education and most importantly to bring the local communiy together >for a weekend to "connect". > >I believe in this community and this industry and we feel that an >event such as this is really needed right now, for more reasons then >we can list. > >So, with all of this said, I really hope that you would re-consider >you position, and I really hope we will see you at the conference, >but if not, then I wish you the best in your freelance work. > >Michael Smith > >----------------- >Get great CF knowledge at CFUN-02. Learn more about ColdFusion MX. >Hear more from famous CF authors and speakers Ben Forta, Charlie >Arehart, Michael Dinowitz, Steve Drucker and Hal Helms plus many >more... > >You get two days chocked full of hidden CF tips and methods and learn >about the new version of ColdFusion - CF MX - that will change our >programming lives. Don't get left behind in the MX revolution. > >Macromedia ColdFusion MX represents many months and many >developer-years of work. The CF MX team took many programmer requests >for new features in ColdFusion to produce the most revolutionary >release of ColdFusion ever. > >CF MX lets you >- moves CF to a standards-based architecture >- creates exciting new features - CF Components, true Functions >- integrates ColdFusion with Flash and Dreamweaver >- runs on J2EE java platform for speed and features >- call java routines from CF >- create web services in CF > >ColdFusion MX also includes innovative new features like ColdFusion >Components, built-in XML handling, great support for web services, and >native connectivity to the Macromedia Flash Player. The MX family of >products - Dreamweaver MX, Flash MX, Fireworks MX, and ColdFusion MX >- now offer an integrated environment for creating the most exciting >applications on the Internet. > > **************************************** > * The best way to learn about * > * ColdFusion MX is to come to CFUN-02! * > **************************************** > > >- Michael Smith, TeraTech, Inc http://www.teratech.com/ > >CFUN-02 http://www.cfconf.com/cfun-02/ >-------------------------------------- >The Fourth Annual TeraTech ColdFusion Conference >$179 until 4/30/02, $199 afterwards. >Saturday, June 15th - Sunday, June 16th, 2002 >Rockville Double-Tree Hotel (opposite Twinbrook metro) >http://www.cfconf.com/cfun-02/ >Sponsored by TeraTech and MDCFUG > >Speakers include well known CF authors and speakers: > >* Ben Forta "XML" >* Charlie Arehart "CFMX Hidden Gems" >* Michael Dinowitz "CFSCRIPT tips and tricks" >* Steve Drucker "Printing, Reporting, and Graphing" >* Raymond Camden "Security in CFMX" >* Sandra Clark "Migrating from CF 5 to CF Mx" >* Adam Churvis "Leveraging the New MX Functions and Components" >* Benjamin Elmore "Leveraging Java in CFMX." >* Shlomy Gantz "Project Management for the MX generation" >* Hal Helms "Implementing model view controller with Fusebox" >* Kevin Towes "ColdFusion Mx and FlashMx Integration using Salsa" >* Robi Sen "Web services and CF" > > >Includes CF party and networking event Saturday night - you change to >chat with CF's hottest speakers! > >Quotes from last year's conference >"This is definitely beneficial to ColdFusion developers or wannabes. >I went last year and not only was it great fun, but I learned more >there than I can express, as well as made invaluable contacts with CF >gurus. Hope to see some of you there!" >- Bonnie E. Betts > >"You and TeraTech deserve a lot of credit for hosting these >conferences and being a driving force in the CF community. I believe >that the local CF community wouldn't be what it is today if >it weren't for these efforts." >- Don Neizer > >Please tell your CF friends about CFUN-02. Thanks! >- Michael Smith, TeraTech, Inc http://www.teratech.com/ > MDCFUG http://www.cfug-md.org/ > > > >[If you don't want to receive our programmer emails just reply to this email saying Remove] > > >-- >Michael Smith, TeraTech Inc - Tools for Programmers(tm) >CF/ASP Web, VB, Telephony, Math, Access programming tools and consulting >12221 Parklawn Dr Ste 200, Rockville MD 20852 USA >Please check out http://www.teratech.com/ - email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED], >or call us for more information; in the USA at 1-800-447-9120, >+1-301-881-1440 International, Fax 301-881-3586 Thanks! > my original email -- Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 23:33:02 -0500 Received: from mail.infopreneur.net ([209.167.227.131] helo=hummm.infopreneur.net) by cac3.hub.mail.psi.ca with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 16qRas-0000jn-00; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 23:32:58 -0500 Received: from localhost (mail@localhost) by hummm.infopreneur.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA13360; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 23:35:12 -0500 Received: by hummm.infopreneur.net (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 27 Mar 2002 23:34:49 -0500 Received: (from major@localhost) by hummm.infopreneur.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) id XAA13345 for cfug-outgoing; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 23:34:48 -0500 Received: from app3.nasc.inter.net (clueponbook.nasc.inter.net [203.176.60.253]) by hummm.infopreneur.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA13341 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 23:34:47 -0500 Received: from ip3.toronto85.dialup.canada.psi.net ([154.20.79.3] helo=rudy) by app3.nasc.inter.net with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 16qReG-0000eB-00 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 23:36:28 -0500 From: "rudy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [CFTALKTor] Is Everyone Signed up for CFNorth? Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 23:36:19 -0500 Message-ID: <01c1d612$1af1e3a0$7c50149a@rudy> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-UIDL: 59beb9ceb9aa02b63a505408cef7236c > If you are not registered for CFNorth --- > WHY HAVEN't YOU REGISTERED? because i was laid off and i'm still unemployed this freelancing is not what it's cut out to be my technical skills are okay, what i cannot seem to be able to do is drum up the work -- i guess i'm not a salesman i pay rent and groceries out of an ever-declining savings account when that's gone, i don't know what's going to happen to my kids this is no time to be treating myself to a conference DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION KEVIN? rudy - You are subscribed to the CFUGToronto CFTALK ListSRV. 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(http://www.infopreneur.net) kevin's reply -- Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 00:02:21 -0500 Received: from mail.infopreneur.net ([209.167.227.131] helo=hummm.infopreneur.net) by cac3.hub.mail.psi.ca with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 16qd2d-0003Hx-00; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 11:46:23 -0500 Received: from localhost (mail@localhost) by hummm.infopreneur.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA19563; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 10:44:04 -0500 Received: by hummm.infopreneur.net (bulk_mailer v1.12); Thu, 28 Mar 2002 10:43:35 -0500 Received: (from major@localhost) by hummm.infopreneur.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) id KAA19543 for cfug-outgoing; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 10:43:35 -0500 Received: from tomts14-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts14.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.35]) by hummm.infopreneur.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA19533 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 10:43:32 -0500 Received: from k2 ([207.61.12.28]) by tomts14-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.23 201-229-121-123-20010418) with SMTP id <20020328154551.WKPY9839.tomts14-srv.bellnexxia.net@k2> for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 10:45:51 -0500 From: "Kevin Towes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [CFTALKTor] Is Everyone Signed up for CFNorth? Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 10:40:59 -0500 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-UIDL: 476d225fb006fc9d51712a8748c24432 Status: RO no Rudy, I don't understand at all. you shouldn't consider this conference as a "Treat" it certianly is not that. Being in the position you are in, especially if you are freelancing, you need to do a few things to keep building your future (ColdFusion aside for a sec). - Market your skills: CFNorth will be a fantastic place to market your skills, connect with other freelancers, or small companies. Talk about the market, and talk about where it is going, and what you can offer it. - Upgrade your skills: CFNorth really is cheap when you consider what we have there. ColdFusion courses (2-Day) start around $1200. The scope of people we have coming to this conference represent all that is the internet today - starting with ColdFusion, but really goes beyond that. You could go to this conference, and not take any ColdFusion sessions! The Macromedia DevCon in Florida will run you around $2000 after travel, fees and hotel, JAVAONE in SanFran - over $1000 and the FlashForward in SanFran is over $1000 !! -- really, $200 is not much. - Look for work: Yea, the market is tight, there is no question about it. Everyone is taking a hit, but there are companies that are looking for people, and investing in a conference of this type demonstrates your willingness and commitment to the market and the community. The CFNorth weekend should not be considered a "party" or a relaxing time. It is a time to learn and to mark your place in this industry and put one foot in front of the other. Freelance work can not be achieved if you make appearances and get your name out there. At the end of the day on Sunday, you will be exhausted. Your mind should be running off in all directions and you should have a pocket full of business cards. You will be tired from preparing your position before the conference, perhaps setting up a portfolio, and you will be tired from following up with all the leads you are bound to get. This is just my opinion, Family and living is always top priority and by no means can I relate to your position, but if you are in this industry, and want to stay in this industry local events like this one, FlashInTheCan, IMAT, CFUGToronto, SIGGRAPH and all the others are extremely important. The reason we are putting so much energy into this conference is to bring the big names, authors and developers to our city to provide an opportunity for those folks who don't have the luxury of going to the big conferences to experience what they offer in spirit, motivation, education and most importantly to bring the local community together for a weekend to "connect". Both Byron and I believe in this community and this industry and we feel that an event such as this is really needed right now, for more reasons then we can list. So, with all of this said, I really hope that you would re-consider you position, and I really hope we will see you at the conference, but if not, then I wish you the best in your freelance work. Kevin Towes - You are subscribed to the CFUGToronto CFTALK ListSRV. 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