Yes - I failed to put the wide uncertainty band around that answer that it
deserves.  Besides individual differences, there are differences in
teachers for a given subject - see this: http://secretgeek.net/camel_kay .


On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 12:32 AM, Raul Miller <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 11:45 PM, Devon McCormick <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > 10. Maybe 6th grade or so?
>
> I don't really like this answer (though it might be valid). But I
> think maybe the question is wrong, also.
>
> In fact, I think that J should not be taught in isolation. The
> important thing is the subject matter being taught, and J is useful
> only as a part of teaching other topics. (Which means writing material
> aimed at satisfying teacher's needs - and putting up with teachers who
> reject it for arbitrary reasons. And also, building on successes.)
>
> Probably the most important things to teach at a grade school level
> are things like study skills and the scientific method ("trust but
> verify (where possible)"). There's a lot of crud that gets presented
> in schools and to be successful the student has to learn how to find
> the good stuff (which might be good material or might be contexts
> where the material can be beneficial, or whatever else...).
>
> Or, put differently: no subject is interesting by itself. It's the
> teacher that makes the class, or the student. Standards and even
> things like J are just tools that can be useful in drawing
> connections.
>
> It's very tempting to say "just give them J and things will be
> better", but that's about as true of J as it is of a pencil or a piece
> of paper. It's what gets done with it that matters.
>
> But it's so easy to ask the wrong questions and takes time and effort
> to create useful and interesting presentations of ideas.
>
> --
> Raul
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