Great links Devon. Thanks for sharing.

Very good points, Raul. Especially, the one about teaching J as a part of
teaching other topics. One Charlie Munger explains, similarly, the
importance of network of mental models (
http://www.focusinvestor.com/FocusSeriesPart3.pdf).


On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 8:17 AM, Devon McCormick <[email protected]> wrote:

> Yes - I failed to put the wide uncertainty band around that answer that it
> deserves.  Besides individual differences, there are differences in
> teachers for a given subject - see this: http://secretgeek.net/camel_kay .
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 12:32 AM, Raul Miller <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 11:45 PM, Devon McCormick <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > > 10. Maybe 6th grade or so?
> >
> > I don't really like this answer (though it might be valid). But I
> > think maybe the question is wrong, also.
> >
> > In fact, I think that J should not be taught in isolation. The
> > important thing is the subject matter being taught, and J is useful
> > only as a part of teaching other topics. (Which means writing material
> > aimed at satisfying teacher's needs - and putting up with teachers who
> > reject it for arbitrary reasons. And also, building on successes.)
> >
> > Probably the most important things to teach at a grade school level
> > are things like study skills and the scientific method ("trust but
> > verify (where possible)"). There's a lot of crud that gets presented
> > in schools and to be successful the student has to learn how to find
> > the good stuff (which might be good material or might be contexts
> > where the material can be beneficial, or whatever else...).
> >
> > Or, put differently: no subject is interesting by itself. It's the
> > teacher that makes the class, or the student. Standards and even
> > things like J are just tools that can be useful in drawing
> > connections.
> >
> > It's very tempting to say "just give them J and things will be
> > better", but that's about as true of J as it is of a pencil or a piece
> > of paper. It's what gets done with it that matters.
> >
> > But it's so easy to ask the wrong questions and takes time and effort
> > to create useful and interesting presentations of ideas.
> >
> > --
> > Raul
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> > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Devon McCormick, CFA
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