If you run on Linux under VM I can not see it need to be any different
than running it on a PC.

It is more or less straight Suse or Red Hat Linux so I gather it
should be just the same as on a PC.

Last I heard you could get a free practice account from IBM to test.

Have not tried it myself but I just assumed it to be the same as the
other Suse and Red Hat Linuxes I am using.

2010/3/7 Don Guinn <[email protected]>:
> Well ---
>
> The instruction set is quite different on the 360/370 series from that of
> Intel although the C compiler should take care of most of that; however,
> testing to verify it is OK would probably be pretty extensive since it is
> such a different platform.
>
> I imagine that memory management on LINUX would be pretty much the same, but
> under native VM or MVS the memory management is quite different.
>
> Not sure where mapped files would go as on MVS mapped files reside in a
> different address space from the application and there is no limit to the
> size of the mapped file in MVS. An opportunity to enhance mapped files but
> done so differently.
>
> A chance to exploit vector units but again, quite different.
>
> 2010/3/7 Björn Helgason <[email protected]>
>
>> Why?
>>
>> J runs very well in Linux
>>
>> 2010/3/7 Don Guinn <[email protected]>:
>> > Roger might not agree.
>> >
>> > 2010/3/7 Björn Helgason <[email protected]>
>> >
>> >> The thought is not wild at all.
>> >> IBM has servers that use VM and lots of Linux sessions.
>> >> I am sure setting J servers under such Linux environment will be
>> >> relatively easy.
>> >>
>> >> 2010/3/7 Don Guinn <[email protected]>:
>> >> > Maybe J could be put onto IBM MVS and VM with the client side on PCs
>> >> where
>> >> > the character set is ASCII. Have some big iron for a server. Just a
>> wild
>> >> > thought.
>> >> >
>> >> > 2010/3/7 Björn Helgason <[email protected]>
>> >> >
>> >> >> A pint of humour is always nice.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> There are all kinds of new stuff we need to define and work with.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Who and where is the server and who and where is the client.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Set up a web of interacting sessions will be fun.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It is actually strange that J is just now getting into the browser
>> >> world.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I was on an IBM seminar and they are seriously going in for
>> supporting
>> >> >> web, VM and Linux.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I started out using VM and APL close to 40 years ago.
>> >> >> Since then IBM has more or less used VM and APL internally but tried
>> >> >> to get the customers to use some of their other products.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It is interesting to see them flog VM and Linux as their best stuff
>> now.
>> >> >> Only APL2 missing from the equation at the moment.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> There will probably come a time they will.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I am sure getting J more out on the web is going to benefit us all.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 2010/3/7 Alex Gian <[email protected]>:
>> >> >> > Absolutely!
>> >> >> > I was just trying to inject a hint of humour...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I am sure there are very good ways to handle thousands of
>> concurrent
>> >> >> > sessions.  Something to look forward to.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Sun, 2010-03-07 at 16:28 +0000, Björn Helgason wrote:
>> >> >> >> The step from one, two, three to many users can be complicated.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Just having one or something like 10 is a very good start.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> 2010/3/7 Alex Gian <[email protected]>:
>> >> >> >> > Yes, I am under the impression that one port is dedicated per
>> user,
>> >> >> >> > though I'm not quite sure what will happen when there are over,
>> >> say,
>> >> >> >> > 32000 users.....
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> >> > For information about J forums see
>> >> http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Björn Helgason, Verkfræðingur
>> >> >> Fornustekkum II
>> >> >> 781 Hornafirði
>> >> >> Po Box 127,801 Selfoss ,
>> >> >> t-póst: [email protected]
>> >> >> gsm: +3546985532
>> >> >> sími: +3544781286
>> >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/J-Programming
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Tæknikunnátta höndlar hið flókna, sköpunargáfa er meistari
>> >> einfaldleikans
>> >> >>
>> >> >> góður kennari getur stigið á tær án þess að glansinn fari af skónum
>> >> >>          /|_      .-----------------------------------.
>> >> >>         ,'  .\  /  | Með léttri lund verður        |
>> >> >>     ,--'    _,'   | Dagurinn í dag                     |
>> >> >>    /       /       | Enn betri en gærdagurinn  |
>> >> >>   (   -.  |        `-----------------------------------'
>> >> >>   |     ) |         (\_ _/)
>> >> >>  (`-.  '--.)       (='.'=)   ♖♘♗♕♔♙
>> >> >>   `. )----'        (")_(") ☃☠
>> >> >>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> >> For information about J forums see
>> http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
>> >> >>
>> >> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> > For information about J forums see
>> http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Björn Helgason, Verkfræðingur
>> >> Fornustekkum II
>> >> 781 Hornafirði
>> >> Po Box 127,801 Selfoss ,
>> >> t-póst: [email protected]
>> >> gsm: +3546985532
>> >> sími: +3544781286
>> >> http://groups.google.com/group/J-Programming
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Tæknikunnátta höndlar hið flókna, sköpunargáfa er meistari
>> einfaldleikans
>> >>
>> >> góður kennari getur stigið á tær án þess að glansinn fari af skónum
>> >>          /|_      .-----------------------------------.
>> >>         ,'  .\  /  | Með léttri lund verður        |
>> >>     ,--'    _,'   | Dagurinn í dag                     |
>> >>    /       /       | Enn betri en gærdagurinn  |
>> >>   (   -.  |        `-----------------------------------'
>> >>   |     ) |         (\_ _/)
>> >>  (`-.  '--.)       (='.'=)   ♖♘♗♕♔♙
>> >>   `. )----'        (")_(") ☃☠
>> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
>> >>
>> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Björn Helgason, Verkfræðingur
>> Fornustekkum II
>> 781 Hornafirði
>> Po Box 127,801 Selfoss ,
>> t-póst: [email protected]
>> gsm: +3546985532
>> sími: +3544781286
>> http://groups.google.com/group/J-Programming
>>
>>
>> Tæknikunnátta höndlar hið flókna, sköpunargáfa er meistari einfaldleikans
>>
>> góður kennari getur stigið á tær án þess að glansinn fari af skónum
>>          /|_      .-----------------------------------.
>>         ,'  .\  /  | Með léttri lund verður        |
>>     ,--'    _,'   | Dagurinn í dag                     |
>>    /       /       | Enn betri en gærdagurinn  |
>>   (   -.  |        `-----------------------------------'
>>   |     ) |         (\_ _/)
>>  (`-.  '--.)       (='.'=)   ♖♘♗♕♔♙
>>   `. )----'        (")_(") ☃☠
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
>>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm



-- 
Björn Helgason, Verkfræðingur
Fornustekkum II
781 Hornafirði
Po Box 127,801 Selfoss ,
t-póst: [email protected]
gsm: +3546985532
sími: +3544781286
http://groups.google.com/group/J-Programming


Tæknikunnátta höndlar hið flókna, sköpunargáfa er meistari einfaldleikans

góður kennari getur stigið á tær án þess að glansinn fari af skónum
          /|_      .-----------------------------------.
         ,'  .\  /  | Með léttri lund verður        |
     ,--'    _,'   | Dagurinn í dag                     |
    /       /       | Enn betri en gærdagurinn  |
   (   -.  |        `-----------------------------------'
   |     ) |         (\_ _/)
  (`-.  '--.)       (='.'=)   ♖♘♗♕♔♙
   `. )----'        (")_(") ☃☠
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