Well, can't use the J engine compiled for Intel. The J engine etc. needs to be compiled to run on the IBM 370 hardware.
2010/3/7 Björn Helgason <[email protected]> > If you run on Linux under VM I can not see it need to be any different > than running it on a PC. > > It is more or less straight Suse or Red Hat Linux so I gather it > should be just the same as on a PC. > > Last I heard you could get a free practice account from IBM to test. > > Have not tried it myself but I just assumed it to be the same as the > other Suse and Red Hat Linuxes I am using. > > 2010/3/7 Don Guinn <[email protected]>: > > Well --- > > > > The instruction set is quite different on the 360/370 series from that of > > Intel although the C compiler should take care of most of that; however, > > testing to verify it is OK would probably be pretty extensive since it is > > such a different platform. > > > > I imagine that memory management on LINUX would be pretty much the same, > but > > under native VM or MVS the memory management is quite different. > > > > Not sure where mapped files would go as on MVS mapped files reside in a > > different address space from the application and there is no limit to the > > size of the mapped file in MVS. An opportunity to enhance mapped files > but > > done so differently. > > > > A chance to exploit vector units but again, quite different. > > > > 2010/3/7 Björn Helgason <[email protected]> > > > >> Why? > >> > >> J runs very well in Linux > >> > >> 2010/3/7 Don Guinn <[email protected]>: > >> > Roger might not agree. > >> > > >> > 2010/3/7 Björn Helgason <[email protected]> > >> > > >> >> The thought is not wild at all. > >> >> IBM has servers that use VM and lots of Linux sessions. > >> >> I am sure setting J servers under such Linux environment will be > >> >> relatively easy. > >> >> > >> >> 2010/3/7 Don Guinn <[email protected]>: > >> >> > Maybe J could be put onto IBM MVS and VM with the client side on > PCs > >> >> where > >> >> > the character set is ASCII. Have some big iron for a server. Just a > >> wild > >> >> > thought. > >> >> > > >> >> > 2010/3/7 Björn Helgason <[email protected]> > >> >> > > >> >> >> A pint of humour is always nice. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> There are all kinds of new stuff we need to define and work with. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Who and where is the server and who and where is the client. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Set up a web of interacting sessions will be fun. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> It is actually strange that J is just now getting into the browser > >> >> world. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> I was on an IBM seminar and they are seriously going in for > >> supporting > >> >> >> web, VM and Linux. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> I started out using VM and APL close to 40 years ago. > >> >> >> Since then IBM has more or less used VM and APL internally but > tried > >> >> >> to get the customers to use some of their other products. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> It is interesting to see them flog VM and Linux as their best > stuff > >> now. > >> >> >> Only APL2 missing from the equation at the moment. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> There will probably come a time they will. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> I am sure getting J more out on the web is going to benefit us > all. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> 2010/3/7 Alex Gian <[email protected]>: > >> >> >> > Absolutely! > >> >> >> > I was just trying to inject a hint of humour... > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > I am sure there are very good ways to handle thousands of > >> concurrent > >> >> >> > sessions. Something to look forward to. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > On Sun, 2010-03-07 at 16:28 +0000, Björn Helgason wrote: > >> >> >> >> The step from one, two, three to many users can be complicated. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Just having one or something like 10 is a very good start. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> 2010/3/7 Alex Gian <[email protected]>: > >> >> >> >> > Yes, I am under the impression that one port is dedicated per > >> user, > >> >> >> >> > though I'm not quite sure what will happen when there are > over, > >> >> say, > >> >> >> >> > 32000 users..... > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> >> > For information about J forums see > >> >> http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> -- > >> >> >> Björn Helgason, Verkfræðingur > >> >> >> Fornustekkum II > >> >> >> 781 Hornafirði > >> >> >> Po Box 127,801 Selfoss , > >> >> >> t-póst: [email protected] > >> >> >> gsm: +3546985532 > >> >> >> sími: +3544781286 > >> >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/J-Programming > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Tæknikunnátta höndlar hið flókna, sköpunargáfa er meistari > >> >> einfaldleikans > >> >> >> > >> >> >> góður kennari getur stigið á tær án þess að glansinn fari af > skónum > >> >> >> /|_ .-----------------------------------. > >> >> >> ,' .\ / | Með léttri lund verður | > >> >> >> ,--' _,' | Dagurinn í dag | > >> >> >> / / | Enn betri en gærdagurinn | > >> >> >> ( -. | `-----------------------------------' > >> >> >> | ) | (\_ _/) > >> >> >> (`-. 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(='.'=) ♖♘♗♕♔♙ > >> >> >> `. )----' (")_(") ☃☠ > >> >> >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> >> For information about J forums see > >> http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >> >> >> > >> >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> > For information about J forums see > >> http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> Björn Helgason, Verkfræðingur > >> >> Fornustekkum II > >> >> 781 Hornafirði > >> >> Po Box 127,801 Selfoss , > >> >> t-póst: [email protected] > >> >> gsm: +3546985532 > >> >> sími: +3544781286 > >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/J-Programming > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Tæknikunnátta höndlar hið flókna, sköpunargáfa er meistari > >> einfaldleikans > >> >> > >> >> góður kennari getur stigið á tær án þess að glansinn fari af skónum > >> >> /|_ .-----------------------------------. > >> >> ,' .\ / | Með léttri lund verður | > >> >> ,--' _,' | Dagurinn í dag | > >> >> / / | Enn betri en gærdagurinn | > >> >> ( -. | `-----------------------------------' > >> >> | ) | (\_ _/) > >> >> (`-. 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(='.'=) ♖♘♗♕♔♙ > >> >> `. )----' (")_(") ☃☠ > >> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> For information about J forums see > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >> >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > For information about J forums see > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Björn Helgason, Verkfræðingur > >> Fornustekkum II > >> 781 Hornafirði > >> Po Box 127,801 Selfoss , > >> t-póst: [email protected] > >> gsm: +3546985532 > >> sími: +3544781286 > >> http://groups.google.com/group/J-Programming > >> > >> > >> Tæknikunnátta höndlar hið flókna, sköpunargáfa er meistari > einfaldleikans > >> > >> góður kennari getur stigið á tær án þess að glansinn fari af skónum > >> /|_ .-----------------------------------. > >> ,' .\ / | Með léttri lund verður | > >> ,--' _,' | Dagurinn í dag | > >> / / | Enn betri en gærdagurinn | > >> ( -. | `-----------------------------------' > >> | ) | (\_ _/) > >> (`-. '--.) (='.'=) ♖♘♗♕♔♙ > >> `. )----' (")_(") ☃☠ > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > > -- > Björn Helgason, Verkfræðingur > Fornustekkum II > 781 Hornafirði > Po Box 127,801 Selfoss , > t-póst: [email protected] > gsm: +3546985532 > sími: +3544781286 > http://groups.google.com/group/J-Programming > > > Tæknikunnátta höndlar hið flókna, sköpunargáfa er meistari einfaldleikans > > góður kennari getur stigið á tær án þess að glansinn fari af skónum > /|_ .-----------------------------------. > ,' .\ / | Með léttri lund verður | > ,--' _,' | Dagurinn í dag | > / / | Enn betri en gærdagurinn | > ( -. | `-----------------------------------' > | ) | (\_ _/) > (`-. '--.) (='.'=) ♖♘♗♕♔♙ > `. )----' (")_(") ☃☠ > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
