I would strongly suggest you concentrate your efforts on constructive rather 
than destructive activities.

Had the Cherokee Webserver Project made claims about the cultural identity of 
the Cherokee People I think you would have some ground to stand on. But they 
don't, never have, and most likely never will. You're trying to create an issue 
where there isn't one, choosing to take offense to something in illogical way 
by using logical fallacies and misleading rationalizations.

Finally you want to appeal to the community to experience how you feel, to 
consider your emotional response. I'm sorry to say: only you can make the 
choice to react to something, you have only yourself to hold accountable, no 
one else.


On Oct 8, 2010, at 1:17 PM, Zachary Krebs wrote:

> I can see that there is very little receptivity around this topic. That is 
> fine. I would suggest that instead of using your brain like a hammer to 
> approach every issue, consider how this might feel to someone. As we have 
> also learned, the mind is not the only source of intelligence. Looking at 
> things with open perceptive lenses, we can see faults and correct them, 
> without defending our actions. Its easy to twist logic to support something, 
> but its harder to understand and trust others.
> Sincerely,
> 
> Zachary Krebs
> 
> Voice:(541) 708-1163
> Skype: ZacharyKrebs
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Max Countryman <[email protected]> wrote:
> I think your accusations are a bit of a red herring: As we have well learned 
> by now, a symbol is not the object it represents. However you're attempting 
> to assert the representation is the object and is therefore objectionable, 
> this is a logical fallacy.
> 
> If you care about the history of native peoples, spend your time and energy 
> enriching that culture rather than detracting from relatively unrelated 
> software projects which neither detract from nor otherwise frame native 
> ethnography.
> 
> On Oct 8, 2010, at 12:06 PM, Zachary Krebs wrote:
> 
>> Please consider removing it or changing it. For some context, there is a 
>> huge dispute in N. America about people using Native American 
>> symbols/logos/caricatures in popular culture to demean or otherwise 
>> insinuate that indigenous people are fast, quirky, half-witted, lesser-than, 
>> etc. The entire idea of naming web servers after Native People (for no 
>> reason) and then having logos from their cultural background makes little 
>> sense. Perhaps you could consider redesigning your logo to use something 
>> other than a caricature of a person? Also posted this to the Hiawatha forum, 
>> which has a similar issue.
>> 
>> http://www.hiawatha-webserver.org/forum/topic/686
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> 
>> Zachary Krebs
>> 
>> Voice:(541) 708-1163
>> Skype: ZacharyKrebs
>> 
>> 
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