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Hey Rick,

I'm just curious if you used their front springs with the conversion?  I'm
assuming you didn't because I think their springs lower the car another inch
for a 2" total drop.  I was wondering if this may have something to do with
not being able to achieve their alignment specs?  When did the conversion on
mine, I didn't use their springs (I had just bought new springs 6 months
before), and I couldn't get their alignment specs either.  The shop I had
mine at didn't mention a sagging frame or anything though.

Anyways, I was just curious if you or anyone else knew if this would be a
contributing factor?

Rodney.
71 Chevelle
Phoenix, AZ



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From: "rick schaefer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 1:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Global west conversion -Long


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>    My conversion/rebuild is finished (??-more on that later).   To
> update- , I installed Global West upper control arms with tall spindles &
> 12" brake rotors on my 1972 el camino.   It took quite a bit longer to
> finish than I expected, but what doesn't.    I am very happy with the
> results.
>     I haven't had a chance to really wiring it out, but in general
> handling is much better.  I can easily go 60 mph thru a curve that was
> white knuckle time at 50mph  before. (Maybe the worn front end parts had
> something to do with this.)  And the car remains flat thru the turn.
> It goes where pointed  and stops much better than the stock discs.
>
>    The spindles dropped the front end 1" on each side (I measured b4 &
> after).  Also the wheel/tire is about 3/8 of an inch (measured with
> wheels straight ahead) closer to the fender than before.  I have lost a
> little in turning radius.   With a Monte Carlo SS box,  the diameter of
> the tightest circle I can make is ABOUT 37 feet ( for some strange reason
> it is a bit tighter going to the left than to the right) .  Before, the
> diameter was about 36  feet.   Not much, but I can definitly tell the
> difference when turning into a tight spot.
>
>   Special tools - Tie rod & ball joint pullers- I couldn't make pickle
> forks work for me & the pullers were cheap (harbor freight $5.00 each),
> INNER spring compressor - I didn't need it for disassembly but had to
> have it for reassembly (harbor freight $14.00) 27mm socket for the
> spindle nut.  Air tools are sooooo much nicer during disassembly.
>
>   Time -  Disassembly  was about 3.5 hours.
>              Reassembly was about 14 hours.
>   I only worked on it 1-2 hours per day.  Includes doing several things
> over, and working for an hour or 2 (TRYING to reinstall springs)  and NOT
> really accomplishing a thing.   Does not include chassis degreasing &
> paint of new parts or installlation of bushings & ball joints.
>
> Parts - I used spindles from an 86 Caprice Estate wagon,  calipers &
> hoses from an 80 Camaro.  Stock 72 calipers WILL bolt up to the spindles
> & probably would work.  Stock hoses are too short.They need to be about 1
> 1/2 inch longer.  I could not make a full (stop to stop) turn with the
> stock hoses.  The camaro hoses are the right length, BUT do not lock into
> the 72 frame brackets correctly.  The 72 bracket is too thick.  I looked
> at many different hoses, but could not find any that had the correct
> length & would clip into the bracket.    Next trip to the wrecking yard
> I'll retrieve some thinner brackets.
>
>      THE BAD NEWS - My frame is sagging.  The alignment shop could not
> get the car into specs recommended by Global West.  The best they could
> do on camber is -1 degree on each side.   It still runs OK, but I will
> have tire wear problems until I get the frame pushed out   (Anyone know
> what that costs?) .  The frame will have to wait, as its gonna take me a
> while to pay off the rebuild parts.
>      I was aware that some frames sag but thought that my 120,000 mile
> never really molested/wrecked elky would be immune.  Wrong!    My nickels
> worth, if you are gonna invest in a costly long term  restoration,  get
> the frame checked early.  Just think of it as another long term
> investment.
>    If anyone has questions, fire away.
>
>    Last thing - I definitly  do NOT like the downhil look.   I need to
> drop the back end about an inch.  Does anyone have suggestions on
> springs?   I'd prefer MOOG or TRW but let me know what works.
>
> rick (Abilene Texas)
> 72 El Camino  TPI 350/700r4
> ACES #00140   TEAM CHEVELLE #00038
> http://members.home.net/jimmy4/rick1972elky.html
> http://chevelles.com/showroom/ricks%20motor%20-L
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