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jerry
    Dave Reineke is who you are refering to.  He helped me a bunch with
part #'s & general info.  E-mail him & I'm sure that he can give you the
number.   OR you can go to www.expressautoparts.com   Enter the info for
your year and go to the steering/suspension area.  I saw the MOOG Problem
Solver Offset Shafts listed there.  Cost was about $38-40.00 each side.  
If there is anything that I can help with, let me know.
rick
On Mon, 27 Aug 2001 19:41:29 -0400 jerry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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>Rick, were you following the thread on TC where (cant remember his 
>name) did the 12 inch conversion without 
>using the GW arms? His setup supposedly aligned OK, even with out 
>them. 
>I like that idea, (-$$$)so I have been collecting parts to try it out. 
>I just cant seem to find a part # for the moog 
>offset shaft.
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>jerry
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>8/27/01 7:27:08 PM, rick schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>>rodney
>>  No I  didn't use their springs.  Mine were replaced the first time 
>I
>>rebuilt the front end,  I will ask my alignment  guy if the springs 
>will
>>make a difference.  I should probably also call GW  and ask an 
>opinion.
>>Your theory makes sense.
>>rick
>> 
>>On Sat, 25 Aug 2001 14:07:46 -0700 "Rodney." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>writes:
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>>>Hey Rick,
>>>
>>>I'm just curious if you used their front springs with the 
>conversion?  
>>>I'm>assuming you didn't because I think their springs lower the car 
>>>another inch>for a 2" total drop.  I was wondering if this may have
>>something to do >with>not being able to achieve their alignment 
>specs? 
>>When did the 
>>>conversion on>mine, I didn't use their springs (I had just bought 
>new
>>springs 6 
>>>months>before), and I couldn't get their alignment specs either.  
>The
>>shop I 
>>>had>mine at didn't mention a sagging frame or anything though.
>>>
>>>Anyways, I was just curious if you or anyone else knew if this would 
>
>>>be a>contributing factor?
>>>
>>>Rodney.
>>>71 Chevelle
>>>Phoenix, AZ
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "rick schaefer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 1:16 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Global west conversion -Long
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>>>>    My conversion/rebuild is finished (??-more on that later).   To
>>>> update- , I installed Global West upper control arms with tall 
>>>spindles &
>>>> 12" brake rotors on my 1972 el camino.   It took quite a bit 
>longer 
>>>to
>>>> finish than I expected, but what doesn't.    I am very happy with 
>>>the
>>>> results.
>>>>     I haven't had a chance to really wiring it out, but in general
>>>> handling is much better.  I can easily go 60 mph thru a curve that 
>
>>>was
>>>> white knuckle time at 50mph  before. (Maybe the worn front end 
>parts 
>>>had
>>>> something to do with this.)  And the car remains flat thru the 
>turn.
>>>> It goes where pointed  and stops much better than the stock discs.
>>>>
>>>>    The spindles dropped the front end 1" on each side (I measured 
>b4 
>>>&
>>>> after).  Also the wheel/tire is about 3/8 of an inch (measured 
>with
>>>> wheels straight ahead) closer to the fender than before.  I have 
>>>lost a
>>>> little in turning radius.   With a Monte Carlo SS box,  the 
>diameter 
>>>of
>>>> the tightest circle I can make is ABOUT 37 feet ( for some strange 
>
>>>reason
>>>> it is a bit tighter going to the left than to the right) .  
>Before, 
>>>the
>>>> diameter was about 36  feet.   Not much, but I can definitly tell 
>>>the
>>>> difference when turning into a tight spot.
>>>>
>>>>   Special tools - Tie rod & ball joint pullers- I couldn't make 
>>>pickle
>>>> forks work for me & the pullers were cheap (harbor freight $5.00 
>>>each),
>>>> INNER spring compressor - I didn't need it for disassembly but had 
>
>>>to
>>>> have it for reassembly (harbor freight $14.00) 27mm socket for the
>>>> spindle nut.  Air tools are sooooo much nicer during disassembly.
>>>>
>>>>   Time -  Disassembly  was about 3.5 hours.
>>>>              Reassembly was about 14 hours.
>>>>   I only worked on it 1-2 hours per day.  Includes doing several 
>>>things
>>>> over, and working for an hour or 2 (TRYING to reinstall springs)  
>>>and NOT
>>>> really accomplishing a thing.   Does not include chassis 
>degreasing 
>>>&
>>>> paint of new parts or installlation of bushings & ball joints.
>>>>
>>>> Parts - I used spindles from an 86 Caprice Estate wagon,  calipers 
>&
>>>> hoses from an 80 Camaro.  Stock 72 calipers WILL bolt up to the 
>>>spindles
>>>> & probably would work.  Stock hoses are too short.They need to be 
>>>about 1
>>>> 1/2 inch longer.  I could not make a full (stop to stop) turn with 
>
>>>the
>>>> stock hoses.  The camaro hoses are the right length, BUT do not 
>lock 
>>>into
>>>> the 72 frame brackets correctly.  The 72 bracket is too thick.  I 
>>>looked
>>>> at many different hoses, but could not find any that had the 
>correct
>>>> length & would clip into the bracket.    Next trip to the wrecking 
>
>>>yard
>>>> I'll retrieve some thinner brackets.
>>>>
>>>>      THE BAD NEWS - My frame is sagging.  The alignment shop could 
>
>>>not
>>>> get the car into specs recommended by Global West.  The best they 
>>>could
>>>> do on camber is -1 degree on each side.   It still runs OK, but I 
>>>will
>>>> have tire wear problems until I get the frame pushed out   (Anyone 
>
>>>know
>>>> what that costs?) .  The frame will have to wait, as its gonna 
>take 
>>>me a
>>>> while to pay off the rebuild parts.
>>>>      I was aware that some frames sag but thought that my 120,000 
>>>mile
>>>> never really molested/wrecked elky would be immune.  Wrong!    My 
>>>nickels
>>>> worth, if you are gonna invest in a costly long term  restoration, 
> 
>>>get
>>>> the frame checked early.  Just think of it as another long term
>>>> investment.
>>>>    If anyone has questions, fire away.
>>>>
>>>>    Last thing - I definitly  do NOT like the downhil look.   I 
>need 
>>>to
>>>> drop the back end about an inch.  Does anyone have suggestions on
>>>> springs?   I'd prefer MOOG or TRW but let me know what works.
>>>>
>>>> rick (Abilene Texas)
>>>> 72 El Camino  TPI 350/700r4
>>>> ACES #00140   TEAM CHEVELLE #00038
>>>> http://members.home.net/jimmy4/rick1972elky.html
>>>> http://chevelles.com/showroom/ricks%20motor%20-L
>>>>
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