Does anyone happen to know approximately how thick the flange is on the Sanderson cast headers? Is it significantly thicker than the typical header flange? (i.e. - is it thick enough to get a good amount of bolt stretch, like a factory cast exhaust manifold?
Galen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Herbert Lumpp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 9:24 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Header Question > Just out of curiosity I went to the Sanderson site to see the headers they > offer. It was interesting to see they are trying to patent the "exclusive > flange" of theirs. If you haven't looked at it, basically they extended the > raised sealing bead out around the bolt holes which will keep the header > flange from warping when you tighten the bolts. > > Back when I was looking for headers and I concluded Headers by Ed were too > expensive I noticed that Ed's headers had a nice smooth sealing surface w/o > the so called raised sealing bead that other manufacturers use. Since I > ended up with Hooker Super Comps and a raised sealing bead, I welded a bead > around the holes for the header bolts and filed them level with the sealing > bead (I also used a dead soft copper header gasket). It's been a couple > years now and now leaks. I guess what I'm trying to say is if you weld a > bead around the bolt holes like I did you should have no leaks. > > cYa- > > Herb Lumpp > 1966 El Camino > ACES 3509, MCC 528 > http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Matthew Post" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 3:25 PM > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Header Question > > > > Thanks for the advice Kent. Well, I'm going to try to salvage the headers > > I have this weekend. If that doesn't work, I'll be looking more into > these > > Sanderson's. > > > > Thanks, > > Matt > > > > At 07:02 PM 3/6/2003 -0600, you wrote: > > >Matt, > > > > > > The Sanderson is a very nice quality header. But, like I said, I had > to > > >dimple a tube on each side. Very disappointing ! However, I did talk > with > > >another guy that has a set on his '69 Chevelle w/427, and did not have > any > > >fitment problems. If you have not already done so, check out > > >www.sandersonheaders.com . Do not use their measurements that are listed > on > > >the website (are not accurate). I have a Moroso oil pan which has the > > >"kickouts" on bottom of each side of the pan. After talking with the > > >Sanderson people on the phone, they told me that their "full length" > header > > >would NOT fit with the oil pan I am using. Then I ran across an article > in > > >Chevy High Performance (I believe..) where the owner stated he was > running a > > >set of the Sanderson "full length" headers on his '69 Chevelle w/427. > > >Called information, got his number, and talked with the guy. He was very > > >helpful, even took time out to take some measurements for me. Needless > to > > >say, I purchased a set from Sanderson. They clear the oil pan with > plenty > > >of room to spare. The only problem being the oil filter is a tight fit > with > > >the oil pan "kickouts". Need to turn the filter sideways to > install/remove. > > >Could be messy. > > > Also, they (Sanderson) do not recommend the use of header gaskets to > seal > > >the header to the head. Instead they say to use only black silicone or > > >black rtv (cannot remember which ?). You can read about it on the web > site. > > >I applied the product that they recommended, but have not run the engine > yet > > >to see how it works. But check out the website, because they also have a > > >"shorty" set of headers that would allow even more ground clearance. > They > > >also offer a different header flange for those who have a GEN VI engine, > > >which allows for the extra room required to clear the head bolts w/thick > > >washers. > > > > > >Good Luck, > > > > > >Kent > > >'68 Malibu ZZ502/502 :) > > >ACES #5102 > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Matthew Post" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 12:18 PM > > >Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Header Question > > > > > > > > > > thanks Kent! the set that I have currently (unknown brand) have > developed > > > > a leak. replaced the gaskets at the head but they're still leaking on > the > > > > driver's side. I think they may have rusted out or cracked. (they're > very > > > > old.) one way to find out is to probably pull the driver's side off > and > > > > check it out. but I've been thinking about replacing them. > Sanderson's > > > > are expensive, but if the quality and fit are good, they might be > worth > > >it. > > > > > > > > Matt > > > > '69 Malibu 396/th400 > > > > soon to be 4 or 5 speed! > > > > > > > > At 07:55 PM 3/5/2003 -0600, you wrote: > > > > >Have a set of the Sanderson "full length" 1 7/8" on my BB 502. Had > to > > > > >dimple a tube on each side for clearance, :( but the quality is > very > > >nice, > > > > >and the ground clearance is good too. > > > > > > > > > >Kent > > > > >'68 Malibu ZZ502/502 > > > > >ACES #5102 > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > > >From: "Clint Hooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > >Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 9:05 PM > > > > >Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Header Question > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I had some 1 7/8" Sanderson intermediates on my former 68 Elky BB > car. > > >Not > > > > > > cheap but great quality. Super ground clearance,too. > > > > > > Clint Hooper > > > > > > LT5 Registry Director > > > > > > '91 ZR-1 Callaway Aerobody > > > > > > http://www.LT5Registry.net/ > > > > > > '69 El Camino ProTourer ACES #1650 > > > > > > http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm > > > > > > '99 Honda F6 Valkyrie custom for sale > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: William King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > One word when it comes to headers..Dont. Look into Sanderson > > >Exhaust > > > > > > > manifolds. Hi flow, bolt on, never tighten. > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------- > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
