Actually I have been thinking of the raw diet as it seems to make so much sense. Can you tell me what you mean by edible bone? Nancy
--- On Sun, 10/3/10, Deanna Corey <[email protected]> wrote: From: Deanna Corey <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Help with dry skin but no fleas To: [email protected] Date: Sunday, October 3, 2010, 2:01 PM You most likely won't like my answer...but I gave up on the dog food comapnies YEARS ago...I was sick and tired of finding a formula I loved that had all the ingrdients I wanted and none of of what I didn't...only for them to be bought by another company and that formula would change...I was sick of bringing home a rancid bag of $54 food...I was sick of not know the quality of what I was feeding...so...I started cooking for them...which then led to now a raw diet. The changes that I have seen have been TREMENDOUS!!!!!! so my anwer??? 80% raw meat, 10% raw organs, 10% edible bone. Waggin' Tails in The Dog Park, Deanna and The Dog Park Pack: Nugget, Shuai-Li, Bella, Mouse, Myrtle, Mable, Caleb and Maxine!!! www.joys4toys.com From: Nancy Lucky <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sun, October 3, 2010 1:55:14 PM Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Help with dry skin but no fleas No I did not know that I noticed the price went up so what do you recommend as the best food for chi's? --- On Sun, 10/3/10, Deanna Corey <[email protected]> wrote: From: Deanna Corey <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Help with dry skin but no fleas To: [email protected] Date: Sunday, October 3, 2010, 1:47 PM Ya know Royal Canine changed their formula not too long ago...one that...now in my opinion...is a food I would not feed my guys...maybe you should check the ingredients list and see if you have one of the new bags...there is a great site for rating food...Use your ingredients list to see if it is a food you still want to use with this chart. www.htpoodles.com/poodle-nutrition.html If you scroll down it has rated a few of the foods but know that many of the formulas change...so just use the ingredients list on your bag or on the companies website to rate it yourself. Grading Your Dog Food ~ What is the best dog food for my Standard Poodle Looking at the ingredients of your dog's food, find the ingredient listed on the table below. Starting with 100 points, add or subract the points given for each ingredient and total the points. Print this sheet to total your points for each item. The grade scale is listed at the end of the table. RETURN TO PREVIOUS PAGE For convenience, we have creatd a printable version of this table for use while grading your dog's food Print Table Here Starting with 100, add or subtract the points shown for each ingredient in your dog's food Add or Subtract For every listing of "By-Product" -10 For every Non-Specific Animal Source reference ("Meat" or "Poultry", Meat, Meal or Fat) -10 For every Grain "Mill Run" or Non-Specific Grain Source - 5 Same Grain ingredient used 2 or more times in the first 5 ingredients. (example: ground brown rice, brewer's rice, and rice flour are all the same grain) - 5 Corn listed in the top 5 ingredients -2 Protein Sources are not meat meal and there are less than 2 meats in the top 3 ingredients -3 If Lamb is the only animal protein source (unless your dog is allergic to other protein sources) - 2 Food is Baked NOT Extruded + 5 Food is endorsed by any major breed group or nutritionist + 5 Animal sources are hormone-free and antibiotic-free + 2 Vegetables have been tested for pesticides and ARE Pesticide-Free + 1 Any of the meat sources are Organic + 5 For every different specific animal protein source, other than the 1st one. (example: Count "chicken" & "chicken meal" as only 1 protein source, BUT count "chicken" & "fish" as 2 different sources) + 1 If the food contains any of the following, add or subtract given points Add or Subtract BHA, BHT, or Ethoxyquin -10 Any Artificial Colorants - 3 Ground Corn or Whole Grain Corn - 3 Any Animal Fat (other than Fish Oil) - 2 Soy or Soybeans - 2 Salt - 1 Wheat (unless you know that your dog isn't allergic to wheat) - 2 Beef (unless you know that your dog isn't allergic to beef) - 1 Fruit + 3 Barley + 2 Probiotics + 3 Vegetables (NOT Corn or Other Grains) + 3 Flax Seed Oil (not just the seeds) + 2 Oats or Oatmeal + 1 Sunflower Oil + 1 Glucosamine & Chondroitin + 1 For convenience, we have creatd a printable version of this table to use while grading your dog's food Print Table Here TOTAL SCORE ____ Grading Scale 100+ = A+ 94-100 = A 86-93 = B 78-85 = C 70-77 = D 69-below = F Grading Your Dog Food ~ What is the best dog food for my Standard Poodle Looking at the ingredients of your dog's food, find the ingredient listed on the table below. Starting with 100 points, add or subract the points given for each ingredient and total the points. Print this sheet to total your points for each item. The grade scale is listed at the end of the table. RETURN TO PREVIOUS PAGE For convenience, we have creatd a printable version of this table for use while grading your dog's food Print Table Here Starting with 100, add or subtract the points shown for each ingredient in your dog's food Add or Subtract For every listing of "By-Product" -10 For every Non-Specific Animal Source reference ("Meat" or "Poultry", Meat, Meal or Fat) -10 For every Grain "Mill Run" or Non-Specific Grain Source - 5 Same Grain ingredient used 2 or more times in the first 5 ingredients. (example: ground brown rice, brewer's rice, and rice flour are all the same grain) - 5 Corn listed in the top 5 ingredients -2 Protein Sources are not meat meal and there are less than 2 meats in the top 3 ingredients -3 If Lamb is the only animal protein source (unless your dog is allergic to other protein sources) - 2 Food is Baked NOT Extruded + 5 Food is endorsed by any major breed group or nutritionist + 5 Animal sources are hormone-free and antibiotic-free + 2 Vegetables have been tested for pesticides and ARE Pesticide-Free + 1 Any of the meat sources are Organic + 5 For every different specific animal protein source, other than the 1st one. (example: Count "chicken" & "chicken meal" as only 1 protein source, BUT count "chicken" & "fish" as 2 different sources) + 1 If the food contains any of the following, add or subtract given points Add or Subtract BHA, BHT, or Ethoxyquin -10 Any Artificial Colorants - 3 Ground Corn or Whole Grain Corn - 3 Any Animal Fat (other than Fish Oil) - 2 Soy or Soybeans - 2 Salt - 1 Wheat (unless you know that your dog isn't allergic to wheat) - 2 Beef (unless you know that your dog isn't allergic to beef) - 1 Fruit + 3 Barley + 2 Probiotics + 3 Vegetables (NOT Corn or Other Grains) + 3 Flax Seed Oil (not just the seeds) + 2 Oats or Oatmeal + 1 Sunflower Oil + 1 Glucosamine & Chondroitin + 1 For convenience, we have creatd a printable version of this table to use while grading your dog's food Print Table Here TOTAL SCORE ____ Grading Scale 100+ = A+ 94-100 = A 86-93 = B 78-85 = C 70-77 = D 69-below = F Waggin' Tails in The Dog Park, Deanna and The Dog Park Pack: Nugget, Shuai-Li, Bella, Mouse, Myrtle, Mable, Caleb and Maxine!!! www.joys4toys.com From: Nancy Lucky <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sun, October 3, 2010 12:07:27 PM Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Help with dry skin but no fleas Alll my chi's have loved Royal Canin - I even did a taste test with that one and Blue and they picked Royal Canin, if he gets hungry enough he will eat. remember they are very smart little dogs and if he thinks if he misses a meal he is going to get steak and lobster - then he will :) When I brought mine home I mixed a little pure meat baby food into their dry food so you might try that. But he will eat. Nancy, Abbey-Rose, and Maggie-Mae --- On Sun, 10/3/10, C.M. <[email protected]> wrote: From: C.M. <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Help with dry skin but no fleas To: [email protected] Date: Sunday, October 3, 2010, 10:59 AM I fogot about that part. As with the TV dinners, would you need to worry about the sodium content? I know I can't eat them because of that :) And my two vets did recommend Omega 3, fatty acids and fish oil. I hope more experienced people jump in here too. I'm curious as well. From: Kavi <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sun, October 3, 2010 10:53:12 AM Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Help with dry skin but no fleas Hi Ricky does not eat dog food. He only eats human food like chicken, turkey or beef. He will not touch dog food. I have Royal Canin chi puppy dry down for him but he has never touched it. QUESTION: What about feeding Ricky like banquet or swanson Pot pies? (if he will eat them). shanna Visit my eBay Store For Childrens Wear Specializing In Christening & Communion @ http://stores.ebay.com/Kavis-Christening-n-Communion-Store --- On Sun, 10/3/10, C.M. <[email protected]> wrote: From: C.M. <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Help with dry skin but no fleas To: [email protected] Date: Sunday, October 3, 2010, 10:21 AM Hi Shana, Both of my dogs have the same problem and two vets told me not to give them any food with corn in it. Check the ingredients on the back of the bags and I bet you'll see that corn is among the first ingredients listed. I switched to organic food and the scratching and dry skin is clearing up. I also give oatmeal baths and in between baths, I give them little massages using a moisturizing lotion. They love the attention! Hope this helps, Carolyn From: Kavi <[email protected]> To: Chihuahuas <[email protected]> Sent: Sun, October 3, 2010 10:05:50 AM Subject: [Chihuahuas] Help with dry skin but no fleas Hi everyone Ricky is my rescue who wont eat dog food. now I feed him any meat I decide. what I am finding is he now is getting ichy skin. no flakes, but his coat is getting a bit dull looking and he scratches alot. I think this is due to him not getting all the vitamins and minerals he needs including oil. I plan to go to the pet store today and find a good vitamin /mineral with salmon oil in it. any advice? shanna Visit my eBay Store For Childrens Wear Specializing In Christening & Communion @ http://stores.ebay.com/Kavis-Christening-n-Communion-Store

