On Wed, May 26, 2004 at 07:49:25PM -0800, Jaap van Ganswijk enlightened us thusly
> At 2004-05-26 12:54, Declan Moriarty wrote:
> >May I summarize your testimonial, Jaap?
> >
> >You don't print much; You don't care much; You don't pay much; You are
> >very good to your family; You know how to wrap old junk pcs as
> >presents:). The real issue you have is how print-ready the device is 
> >when you take it out of hibernation.
> 
> Yes!
> 
> ;-)
> 
> >Lucky you. Think of us poor sods doing copy Invoices,
> 
> I send all my invoices via email. This is allowed although
> the EU has imposed stricter rules, which became effective
> januari first 2004. I phoned my local tax service about
> it and unofficialy they admitted that it may have been
> overdone a little. (You need to send digitally signed
> invoices now).

Half of my customers do not have e-mail. I need delivery signatures from
customers. I haven't implemented digital signatures yet.

Note also I said 'Copy Invoices'; these are issued when I am trying to
screw cash out of a reluctant accounts department. The last 5 I issued
could not be printed off by the girl at the other end. Ditto
Statements.

> 
> >Monthly Statements,
> 
> In principle you could keep internal company documents
> within the computer.
> 
> Why do you print them? For the inland revenue service?

For the fax machine.Technology would allow the pc doing the faxing,
but I've never bothered. I hated every piece of fax software I started
up. Typically it takes 25 mouse clicks to send a fax.


> I have never been checked since I started my company in
> 1997. If I should be audited, why not just show them
> my CD-R's with spreadsheets? Or I could print them
> especially for the audit.

I haven't been audited, and it is very unlikely; I am small fry, and
they are after big fry as exposed by our tribunals of inquiry. 
Excuse understandable weapping on this link

http://oasis.gov.ie/government_in_ireland/government_and_politics_at_national_levels/tribunals/tribunals_of_inquiry.html
> 
> >Business letters,
> 
> Emails.
> 
> >Flyers, Labels, Agreements,
> 
> Isn't it much cheaper to have flyers printed
> professionaly?

Not in tiny volume. I typically use 30 at a time. The last one was a
pdf, which went well.

> 
> Labels are an exception of course, but there
> are special label printers that can also
> cost-efficiently print a single label.

I fixed them. Not for me!! 

> 
> There is no reason why agreements have to be
> printed. Just send them back and forth via emails
> a couple of times and none of the parties can
> deny their existence anymore. Digital signatures
> aren't even needed.
> 
> I very much believe in the internet and (still) in
> the paperless office! But sometimes it indeed takes
> a bit of convincing the other party.
> 
> Some people for example still think that a fax has
> some sort of legal preference over email (which it
> indeed had in the beginning) but those days are
> long gone. Already since about 1999 I receive and
> send faxes from my PC. Currently they are even
> automatically converted to email-attachments by my
> local telecom-provider and emailed to me as they
> arrive.
> 
> Faxes are just bit-images and I can manipulate the
> outgoing and incoming faxes as much as I want.
> 
> >and trying to satisfy the artistic tastes of our minors
> >in homework and class projects, guitar tabs, etc. etc.
> 
> You should educate them so they (and their teachers)
> learn to appreciate the beauty of the internet. Why
> not put the results of a class project on the WWW?

I am trying to convert the world already, Jaap - or had you 
forgotten? One agenda is enough - mine means their future and 
existence. You want me to start over paper?

> 
> And why are guitars still needed? Every computer has
> a an excellent audio card (with an inbuilt Yamaha
> synthesizer that would have set you back several
> $1000 years ago) that can produce excellent guitar
> and other sounds and you don't even have to play
> yourself anymore, just feed it a MIDI-file. Most
> classical works are available for free from the WWW.

It is an excellent mental discipline, form of self expression, does
wonderful things for the brain, and provides practise of motor skills
which is important at a formative age.
> 
> Every child having to learn to play an instrument
> (I had to learn to play the flute and the piano)
> is a misconception of the previous century. Teach
> them to play the computer instead!

They already can play that.
> 
> >When I was doing a project I printed a 230 page data sheet!
> 
> That is indeed very expensive using an inkjet printer!
> 
> Why not put a PC at the spot you need the datasheet
> and use the PDF version? Most datasheets are only
> used a couple of times and are no longer needed after
> that. This may have made sense in the era of
> mass-printed paper dataheets when computers were
> still primitive, but does it still apply?
> 
> Just do the maths: Most printers cost at least $0.10
> per printed page, so your datasheet cost at least
> $23. Was that really worth it?

Yes. For me, it made the difference.

> 
> In general: Most printed pages are read only one time
> so in which cases does a cost of at least $0.10 makes
> sense?

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        With best Regards,


        Declan Moriarty.
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