-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Ichthyostega wrote: |> Herman Robak wrote: | Hmmm, does Imovie call these "thumbnails"? |> The conventional terminology | for it is a "proxy". Easy proxy |> editing has been on the wishlist for quite | some time, since HD |> video with formats like HDV is too slow without it. | | Andrew Hunter schrieb: |> He is not referring to proxies (as I understand it), but rather for |> working with clips as discrete, untrimable units, the way the |> "Thumbnail" view in iMovie works. I discussed this in irc channel and |> posted a section to the GUIBrainstorm page in the wiki. | | Hi all, | | what is described here is often referred to as "storyboard mode". This | feature is very common in video editors adressing rather beginners. It | is indeed a valuable feature, because it helps keeping focussed to the | narrative structure, similar as the act of drawing a storyboard does. | | In a full-blown pro application, usually you can get almost the same | effect by organizing your clips in the media/clip bins, of course | without the convenience of being able to play/render the sequence | immediately. | | Boiled down to the essence, it's sort of working with an outline of | your cut. Personally, I think for lumiera we should further investigate | Chrisian's proposal to create sort of an abbreviated view of the normal | timeline. | | | Btw, as we are at it: there is one very important issue with all those | storyboard views; the problem is also pertinent when working with the | clips in the media/clip bins: As it means, reducing a whole take to | a single frame (mentally), which is the frame used to represent it | as a still immage, it is of uttermost importance /which/ frame you | select to "capture" the whole idea of the take. Indeed, going through | your material and identifying this "pivot frame" of each take can bring | you half the way towards a first working cut. Of course, you can't do | this selection automatically, and there is no "best" choice. Probably | two different editors will select different "pivot frames" of the same | take (and consequently end up with different cut versions). | | I think we should include a feature to select this pivot frame for any | clip, causing this pivot frame to be used as thumbnail to represent the | clip in the clip bins and in the timeline. In any case, such a thumbnail | representation would be vastly superiour to taking just the first frame | (which is usually rather misleading) or to printing a strip of frames, | (which is just too much / unneccessary information in many cases).
The first frame is entirely appropriate if you are slating your productions. As Lumiera is targeting the "pro" market, this should be the norm. It in fact makes it easier for the editor as the shot, scene, take and roll number are visible on the timeline. That said, being able to set that point is a smart idea! I would propose that we have this feature but have it default to the one of the first frames, or better yet, be able to set the default frame number. (In the case of the Arri SR through to the SRIII, there is a flash frame between takes, so setting it as the 3-4 frame would be appropriate.) | | Hermann V. | | _______________________________________________ Cinelerra mailing list [email protected] https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkg1JZEACgkQSyj78chr9d+ougCeJ6Qb3bU5ZZLyx7snLBsefvv4 xYcAoL2md/C8Jd3JuqPCaNU0PQia+2C3 =2kA1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Cinelerra mailing list [email protected] https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
