> On Feb 2, 2015, at 11:46 AM, Warren Jackson <wrjack1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Sure, no problem!
> 
> 1)  Lack of Cisco support.  You will find yourself behind the eight-ball 
> dealing with the TAC if you have these in your chassis.  Sounds like a small 
> deal, but I for one don't have the time to deal with it.

Sounds like you work for Cisco or were properly ingrained in their marketing 
thinking.

> 2)  Cost.  If you buy through a Cisco gold provider then you are going to get 
> a good price on the optics, enough to where the difference pays off in 
> support, as these can been wrapped in through your smartnet converage.  If 
> you have optics from another vendor you are dealing with their support and 
> Cisco support, keeps things simple. Makes it worth paying the bit extra you 
> would pay.  We aren't talking about thousands of dollars difference in price 
> here.

Not really.

> 3)  Who?  Which SFP manufacturer(s) would you recommend besides Cisco?

Finisar (for examples).

> 4)  Several of the Cisco SFP's provide the show tranceiver telemetry that aid 
> in troubeshooting the physical layer, which you won't get with the off-market 
> brand tranceivers.

Actually, not true, this is the problem I have with their first party optics.  
We’ve met with their TMG group several times and have outstanding software 
defects that are unresolved.


> Just my 2 cents based on my experience.  How about the rest of you guys?

We’ve had great luck with 3rd party and better support for DOM than their first 
party optics.

- Jared

> 
> -Warjack
> 
> On Mon Feb 02 2015 at 11:37:59 AM Jared Mauch <ja...@puck.nether.net> wrote:
> 
> > On Feb 2, 2015, at 11:16 AM, Gert Doering <g...@greenie.muc.de> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 02, 2015 at 03:29:41PM +0000, Rick Martin wrote:
> >> I am glad to see this thread, we are on the cusp of making the plunge into 
> >> aftermarket optics
> >
> > Whatever "aftermarket" optics are - I would not go and by *used* optics,
> > because that's about the only thing in modern hardware that truly ages,
> > aka "optics burn out over time".
> 
> Agreed, general use optics shouldn’t cost you more than $300, and that is 
> being quite generous.
> 
> If you wanted to program your own optics, apparently you can get one of these 
> new raspberry pis:
> 
> http://eoinpk.blogspot.com/2014/05/raspberry-pi-and-programming-eeproms-on.html
> 
> It includes a link at the bottom for how to program the optics to be ‘cisco 
> compatible’.
> 
> - Jared
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