To clarify, there's actually 3 different 8800 KEMs.
The original (CP-BEKEM=) is the single screen straight model.
The 8851/8861 KEM (CP8800-A-KEM=) is the dual-screen straight model.
The 8865 KEM (CP-8800-V-KEM=) is the dual-screen tilted model (matching the bend in the 8845/65).

The A-KEM and V-KEM do require newer phone loads to be supported.  The BEKEM is supported on older firmware than you want to be using in production anymore.

Jeremy

On 8/10/18 14:46, Matthew Loraditch wrote:

I have a feeling that’s for the new model. The BEKEM model existed long before 12.x did but you never know!

        
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*From:* Anthony Holloway <[email protected]>
*Sent:* Friday, August 10, 2018 2:45 PM
*To:* Matthew Loraditch <[email protected]>
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*Subject:* Re: [cisco-voip] 8865 + KEM + Video Calls

I just noticed that there is a requirement in the accessories guide to be running 12.0(1) firmware when using the KEM.

"The Cisco IP Phone 8851/8861 Key Expansion Module and the Cisco IP Phone 8865 Key Expansion Module require firmware release 12.0(1) or later, and Cisco Unified Communications Manager 10.5(2) or later to function."

Source: https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/cuipph/7800-8800/english/accessories/p881_b_accessorie-guide-for-cisco-ip/p881_b_accessorie-guide-for-cisco-ip_chapter_01.html#IP8K_TP_CA5D75A4_00

And this phone is running 11.7(1).  Let me get that upgraded quick and re-test.

On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 1:40 PM Anthony Holloway <[email protected] <mailto:avholloway%[email protected]>> wrote:

    The module is the single LCD flat one, not the dual screen angled
    one.  The module in CUCM is listed as "BEKEM 36-Button Line
    Expansion Module" as opposed to "CP-8800-Video 28 Button Key
    Expansion Module" or even "CP-8800-Audio 28 Button Key Expansion
    Module"

    Interestingly, I have both an 11.5(1)SU3 and an 11.5(1)SU4
    deployment to look at, and the SU3 one doesn't have the newer KEM
    selections in the drop down, but the SU4 one does.  So, you would
    think that the SU4 Release Notes would mention it, but there's
    nothing in there.

    I'd be surprised if the module itself is causing the phone to
    negotiate video or not, but I suppose Cisco does like to keep us
    on our toes.

    On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 11:30 AM Matthew Loraditch
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        The CP-BEKEM or the newer one? I’m speculating based on the
        way the newer one is listed as a video expansion module in
        some places you need the newer one..

                

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        I have a use case on an 8865 with the KEM, and a Line
        configured per the usual setup.  If that line is on the phone
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