You need to dissociate flex std/prem from L-CCX std/pre. Every feature on flex 
is the equivalent of the L-CCX premium level from a capabilities standpoint.

Does that make sense?

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From: Anthony Holloway <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 7:03:47 PM
To: Matthew Loraditch <[email protected]>
Cc: Pawlowski, Adam <[email protected]>; Cisco VoIP Group 
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Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] UCCX Flex Licensing


[EXTERNAL]


My man!  Always coming through!  So, the Supervisor one is true but the admin 
one is bogus, right?  I mean, about the Premium requirement for each.

So, what is still confusing to me is, in the past, the Premium seat also got 
you 2 premium IVR ports.  Does a standard flex seat get you 2 standard ivr 
ports?  Thus, a mized std/pre felx deal is going to net you a mixed std/pre 
port solution?  How does that work?

On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 4:36 PM Matthew Loraditch 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> 
wrote:

A-FLEX-CC has Standard and Premium Licenses.



These are different from non flex licensing.



Standard is inbound agent licensing essentially



Premium is supervisor licensing,   email/chat agents, outbound campaign 
licensing.



2 CTI ports per agent/license.



Admin still works no specific license needed as long as admin isn’t also 
supervisor/agent, HA is included, outside of the 3 features above, it’s like 
perpetual premium with SQL, etc included.



See here for specifics:



https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/unified-communications/cisco-collaboration-flex-plan/datasheet-c78-741220.html
 Table 8.





License enforcement is only in UCCX 12.5. Older versions don’t know and you end 
up with Perpetual Premium with HA feature set but with a license that expires 
at the end of your contract term.



Suffice it to say if you don’t need 12.5 features you could ride the gravy 
train for a while.



Licensing is still concurrent users.



There are grace periods so if you need to test something you can make the admin 
a supervisor or something w/o breakage, just remember to remove later.



If your customer has on-prem premium, with perpetual trade-in credits you are 
close to the cost of SWSS and should probably try and get them to move.








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From: cisco-voip 
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On Behalf Of Anthony Holloway
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 5:21 PM
To: Pawlowski, Adam <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Cc: Cisco VoIP Group 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] UCCX Flex Licensing



[EXTERNAL]



But seriously, a premium license to administer the system?  Does this include 
the appadministrator account too?  Do you have first hand experience with it?



On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 4:16 PM Pawlowski, Adam 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

This was the information I heard as well, and the purchase quantities are based 
on feature utilization and concurrency.







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On Behalf Of Brian Meade
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 5:07 PM
To: Anthony Holloway 
<[email protected]<mailto:avholloway%[email protected]>>
Cc: Cisco VoIP Group 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] UCCX Flex Licensing



Pretty sure when buying as A-Flex-CC that it always just gives you Premium 
licensing on the CCX side.  Had this cause an issue with a customer that was 
staying on Enhanced for the extra CTI ports for many years.



On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 4:23 PM Anthony Holloway 
<[email protected]<mailto:avholloway%[email protected]>> 
wrote:

All,



Anyone already deal with this themselves?  I am reading/being told something I 
cannot swallow as the truth, because it seems so ridiculous.



I am being told that you need a Premium license to even login as a Supervisor 
at all.  Like, not for extra functionality (silent monitoring), but just as a 
basic license requirement to even sign in.



Also, I am being told a Premium license is required for Administrative users 
too.  Like, even the app admin account.  So what, completing a fresh install 
now requires a Premium license?



Are either of these true?  Can you confirm from your own tests that this is in 
fact how Flex works in UCCX on-prem?

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