I agree with taking your own way but I do not agree that an MCSE is crap.
Like it or not, the majority of businesses out there have NT or Windows of
some flavor on their network. Especially on the workstation end! It's very
rare to find an all non-Microsoft workplace. The knowledge and
certification are a plus in 99% of the workplace.
My MCSE got me a job that paid $20K more/year. Best investment I've made so
far. And now I'm working with mostly PIX firewalls and FreeBSD servers but
we still have customers running NT. Having Windows certification AND
alternative operating system experience is an even bigger plus. Microsoft
isn't going anywhere (at least for a looooooooooooooong time).
Also, you don't need to go for MCSE. Just take an operating system exam and
LAN related (TCP/IP, security, etc) elective along with Networking
Essentials (this may have all changed in the new trek so I'm not sure the
exact courses) and bam...MCP along with LAN/WAN and all you had to touch on
Windows was one Microsoft O/S of your choice. You can always learn LAN/WAN
in your own way but you might as well come out of it with a certification if
it's as cheap as taking 3 tests.
On another note..I haven't found an O/S I like YET!
Microsoft - BSOD
Macintosh - System bomb replaced BSOD
*nix - hard to learn and even harder to learn to troubleshoot (not user
friendly)
AS/400 - (got a spare $50K to buy a bottom of the line system to learn on??)
RS/6000 - (got a spare $500K??)
hehe...my donation of 2 cents back to the community.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fred Danson"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 1:55 PM
Subject: Certification Ego! (was Failed CCDA) [7:1929]
> One thing that I ALWAYS notice when asking someone else for advice is that
> they ALWAYS advise me to take the same path that they did. No matter how
> dissimilar out situations are, I will always be advised to take the same
> route that they took.
>
> For example, when I was finishing up with my CCNP certification, I asked
for
> advise from several other people who also were finishing their CCNP
> certifications. A few of the people that I asked were MCSE's and they all
> told me to go for MCSE before CCIE. Their reasoning was that I wouldn't be
> able to understand the WAN unless I had a solid understanding of the LAN.
> Now I do think that there is some logic to this statement, but I
definitely
> did not think that it made sense to put CCIE on hold for 5-6 months just
to
> learn more about Microsoft.
>
> I think their real reasons for giving me such crappy advice is that
they're
> afraid to admit that they made a mistake. If they suddenly realized that
> they wasted 7 months learning about Microsoft, would they be willing to
> admit this? I really doubt it! They would tell me to do what they did so
> they can boost their own egos! Or on the other hand, they wouldn't tell me
> not to do what they did because they would hurt theie egos.
>
> So now, instead of blindingly taking someone's advice, I take a realistic
> look at all of my options. Being only 20 years old, I was advised by many
> "experienced professionals" to give it a few years before attempting the
> CCIE. Does it really take that long to learn all this stuff? I really
don't
> think so. There is an abundance of information out there, and all you have
> to do is put in the extra effort to learn it. Heck, I didn't even know
what
> a Router was until about 7 months ago, and I already have CCNA, CCDA,
CCNP,
> and CCIE written.
>
> My point here is, don't listen to anyone that isn't in the same situation
as
> you! Take a realistic look at your options and go for it!
>
> Fred Danson
>
> P.S. - I have a problem with the statement "youth is a unique illnes that
> heals with time only". From what I hear, the older portion of the CCIE
> candidates typically struggle with the time constraints on the CCIE Lab.
To
> my knowledge, cheese and wine are the things that improve with age. They
may
> have the wisdom, but you got the speed. Go for it!
>
>
>
> >From: "Ruben Arias"
> >Reply-To: "Ruben Arias"
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: Failed CCDA [7:1865]
> >Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 10:09:11 -0400
> >
> >we're not offended because of your age, we're scared to death...
> >by the way, youth is a unique illnes that heals with time only.
> >Ruben
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