Woah, all I was saying was that there are some scum out there that will pass
the written and claim to be CCIE.
Bri
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Subject: Re: over 1700 passing ccie written every month [7:23680]
> ""Brian Whalen"" wrote in message
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> > If I put in the effort to pass the written, I'd have no problem telling
> > people that in an interview. From the employer's perspective, if a
> > candidate says I'm a CCIE, its up to the employer to ask him/her to
prove
> > it.
>
> Well, to me, it's all a matter of misrepresentation and fraud. Saying
that
> you passed the written is one thing. There's nothing wrong with that.
But
> listing such an accomplishment as a cert is something else. The fact is,
> the written is not a cert, and people who try to claim that it is are
> entering into a hazy ethical area.
>
> And, I'm sorry, but I must say that I do not agree with your last
sentence.
> I don't want to start a flame war, and yes, I concur that employers should
> most definitely check out their candidates. But if I read you correctly,
> you are implying that if a candidate claims to be a CCIE (but is actually
> not), then it is completely the employer's responsibilities to check that
> claim out, and the candidate has no culpability in the matter.
>
> Now, I'm not sure that's what you meant, but if it is, then why stop
there?
> To continue that logic, then it should be perfectly acceptable for
> candidates to lie about their college degrees and their work experience
too.
> Why not? In fact, why doesn't every job candidate just hand in a resume
of
> complete fiction?
>
> Now you might respond that any employer that just accepts the claims of a
> candidate without checking them out is basically asking to be screwed
over.
> Yes, of course that is true. But on the other hand, to only blame the
> employer is really a case of blaming the victim. Yes, that employer is
> stupid. But that's not to say that the lying candidate bears no
> responsibility in the matter.
>
> So the way I see it is, it all becomes a slippery slope - a question of
> 'where do you draw the line?'. If you choose to misrepresent yourself in
> one part of your resume to get a job, then why not misrepresent yourself
in
> every area? To me, it's pretty black-and-white. Either your resume is
the
> truth, or it isn't.
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