Old news (10 Oct) and I'll still give that fiver if you make MCSE in 6 weeks.
And I'm not pleased with that decision because I did the 7 W2K exams including 2 design exams and I got my Gold card because as a contractor I thought it important to keep current. (even though I'm running XP right now waiting for the .NET stuff) But 5 exams at 2 weeks an exam is still 10 weeks. Now you have not mentioned how many Microsoft exams you have sat so I don't know where you're coming from. But just one W2K design exam (you need at least one) will sober you up. My point is - until you've done them you're pretty cocky to downplay them. It's always easy to make statements about how easy something is ( or allude to it with 6 weeks to complete the entire track ) but quite another to show the initials. Show me the initials. Kevin Wigle CCDP CCNP CSE MCSE (2000, 4.0, 3.51) CBE CBI see ............. I put the Cisco ones first! I am a Cisco bigot but I respect other certs out there too ----- Original Message ----- From: "nrf" To: Sent: Sunday, 21 October, 2001 22:36 Subject: Re: over 1700 passing ccie written every month [7:23680] > ""Kevin Wigle"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > and two penneth won't get you a MCSE 2000 in 6 weeks. I'll raise that to > a > > fiver if you can. > > > > I recently undertook and completed MCSE 2000, this after having MCSE 4.0 > and > > 3.51 which is to say that I've been "aware" of Microsoft products for some > > time. > > > > I took 7 exams because I didn't want to try and sit the 4 hour make up > exam > > even though I qualified to take it. > > > I see that Microsoft has (again) changed its W2k mcse policies. Now the old > NT4 electives now count as w2k electives. Which means that you could have > gotten by with only 5 exams (and carried 2 of your older electives from > NT4). You can see it here, and see how W2k is now accepting things like > IIS4 and TCP/IP: > http://www.microsoft.com/trainingandservices/default.asp?PageID=mcp&PageCall > =requirements&SubSite=cert/mcse&AnnMenu=mcse > > It's nice that Microsoft has made the W2k exams, especially the design > exams, harder. But that doesn't do a whole lot of good if people don't have > to go through a lot of those w2k exams. Consider this. Somebody who is > already NT4 certified could get the 2k MCSE with only two more exams - that > accelerated make-up exam, and one design exam. That's really not that many. > > > > > > > One week studying from books, one week to do Transcender for each exam > > translates into 14 weeks. > > > > However, everyone thinks I was nuts and I didn't have a life in those 14 > > weeks, every night and weekend was studying. > > > > I have enough Cisco initials to be "aware" of the Cisco curriculum and I > > would be among those who would say that there is no comparing MCSE to CCNP > > (or CCDP). > > > > But, the new W2K exams are not like the old NT exams. The "Design" exams > > though not really testing putting circuits together are still long hard > > tests that challenge your ability to see the issues and determine an > > appropriate solution based on the given requirements and conditions. > > > > All this to say - if you pass MCSE 2000 in 6 weeks (with odd breaks in > > between) with no previous Microsoft exams behind you - you will > accomplish > > something that few if any others have that's why out of 400,000 plus MCSEs > > worldwide, only 47,000 have re-qualified to date. I suggest you visit > > http://www.examcram.com and read the exam reviews by Orin. (especially > 216) > > > > It's fine to have a healthy opinion of Cisco vs Microsoft accreditations > but > > I do think you are severely underestimating the new Microsoft exams. > > > > Kevin Wigle > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Gareth Hinton" > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, 21 October, 2001 12:42 > > Subject: Re: over 1700 passing ccie written every month [7:23680] > > > > > > > "ccie r catching up with ...mcse now" > > > > > > > > > That's a bit of a wild inaccurate statement. > > > > > > I reckon after doing my CCNP it wouldn't take too long to get past the > > CCIE > > > written with 4 to 6 weeks good study. > > > I reckon the CCIE Lab could take me a year or more of hard work to get > > > anywhere near it, if ever. > > > I am looking at the doing the MCSE to broaden the knowledge a little. > > > Looking through the syllabus I am looking at around 6 weeks of study > with > > > odd breaks in between. > > > > > > MCSE and CCIE will never be comparable. > > > It amuses me when people do compare them. > > > I think "CCIE written" is a little misleading - As far as I'm concerned > > its > > > a fairly testing written exam to stop time wasters taking what is the > real > > > CCIE exam - The LAB. > > > > > > > > > My two penneth... > > > > > > > > > Gaz Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=23740&t=23680 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
