and two penneth won't get you a MCSE 2000 in 6 weeks.  I'll raise that to a
fiver if you can.

I recently undertook and completed MCSE 2000, this after having MCSE 4.0 and
3.51 which is to say that I've been "aware" of Microsoft products for some
time.

I took 7 exams because I didn't want to try and sit the 4 hour make up exam
even though I qualified to take it.

One week studying from books, one week to do Transcender for each exam
translates into 14 weeks.

However, everyone thinks I was nuts and I didn't have a life in those 14
weeks, every night and weekend was studying.

I have enough Cisco initials to be "aware" of the Cisco curriculum and I
would be among those who would say that there is no comparing MCSE to CCNP
(or CCDP).

But, the new W2K exams are not like the old NT exams.  The "Design" exams
though not really testing putting circuits together are still long hard
tests that challenge your ability to see the issues and determine an
appropriate solution based on the given requirements and conditions.

All this to say - if you pass MCSE 2000 in 6 weeks (with odd breaks in
between) with no previous Microsoft exams behind you -  you will accomplish
something that few if any others have that's why out of 400,000 plus MCSEs
worldwide, only 47,000 have re-qualified to date.  I suggest you visit
http://www.examcram.com and read the exam reviews by Orin. (especially 216)

It's fine to have a healthy opinion of Cisco vs Microsoft accreditations but
I do think you are severely underestimating the new Microsoft exams.

Kevin Wigle

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gareth Hinton" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, 21 October, 2001 12:42
Subject: Re: over 1700 passing ccie written every month [7:23680]


> "ccie r catching up with ...mcse now"
>
>
> That's a bit of a wild inaccurate statement.
>
> I reckon after doing my CCNP it wouldn't take too long to get past the
CCIE
> written with 4 to 6 weeks good study.
> I reckon the CCIE Lab could take me a year or more of hard work to get
> anywhere near it, if ever.
> I am looking at the doing the MCSE to broaden the knowledge a little.
> Looking through the syllabus I am looking at around 6 weeks of study with
> odd breaks in between.
>
> MCSE and CCIE will never be comparable.
> It amuses me when people do compare them.
> I think "CCIE written" is a little misleading - As far as I'm concerned
its
> a fairly testing written exam to stop time wasters taking what is the real
> CCIE exam - The LAB.
>
>
> My two penneth...
>
>
> Gaz




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