If you read further into the site you will that the FCPA is proposing to deliver hands-on testing at both junior and senior levels of certification.
They have buy in from the major vendors such as Cisco, Microsoft, Novell and Red Hat. Both Novell and Red Hat and talking it up as the "capstone" to their certs, but not as a replacement. People who have CCIE / CDE / RHCE certs will be awarded a FCPA cert without being tested. Which is a bit funny as the list has from time to time "discussed" paper CCIEs. Since the FCPA cert is just another lab, I don't know how it would be different from any other. It still doesn't "automatically" mean yoou have real world experience, just real lab experience. However, it is almost a daily discussion where I work about how someone has some initials but can't seem to troubleshoot out of a paper bag. Quite often people are sent off on courses but are not "motivated" to take the exam. Anybody can sit at the back of the classroom and play solitaire - not everyone passes the exam. A "hands-on" exam I think would be very beneficial as another tool to assess a person's ability. Still, as mentioned we will always be able to debate the "lab/real world" gambit but at least the whole discussion would be on a higher plane. However, being on a "vendor neutral" plain, anyone can walk in and take the exam without pre-requisites. This could be enhanced by having a real pre-requisite of having the vendor's "paper" cert before attempting the lab. But this can be debated also. On the site in one of the meeting minutes was an interesting quote: http://www.fieldcertification.org/Composition/Steering_Committee_Meeting_Min utes_06-18-01.htm Eighty Pound Weight: Mr. Brown commented that he believed a company could spend a million dollars designing a multiple-choice test which accurately predicts whether a person is likely able to lift an eighty-pound weight or, the test taker could prove this ability merely by being asked to lift an eighty-pound weight. Mr. Brown believed the FCPA. effort is attempting to have technology workers prove themselves by "lifting eighty pound weights." I think I like what FCPA wants to accomplish but the devil is always in the details and whether yet another certification will gain industry acceptance. In this regard, the FCPA seems to have attracted participation from a lot of the industry's top vendors so maybe the time is right for performance based testing............. Kevin Wigle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck's Long Road" To: Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2002 6:00 PM Subject: Re: Lookee Lookie - new certifications!!!! [7:54435] > check further into the site: > > http://www.fieldcertification.org/Field_Certification.htm > > read all about "field certification" > > also > > http://www.fieldcertification.org/How_It_Works.htm > > sure looks like a whole new level of certification to me. > > not that I disagree with the principal here. But the home page ( and Cisco's > site ) does talk about this > > "Get the Field Certified Professional (FCPT) credential to assert yourself > as the real IT professional with actual skills and set your credential apart > from the paper ones! " > > Like I said - a whole new certification to certify that your certification > is better than some "paper" certification. > > I can hardly wait. > > Chuck > > -- > > www.chuckslongroad.info > like my web site? > take the survey! > > > > ""Steven A. Ridder"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Not sure I saw any new certifications, just a new org. to certify > > ""Chuck's Long Road"" wrote in message > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > Check this out" > > > > > > > > > http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/ccie_program/fcpa.html > > > > > > AND > > > > > > http://www.fieldcertification.org > > > > > > AND > > > > > > > > > http://www.fieldcertification.org/Membership/Pre_Qualification.htm > > > > > > Now you can get a certification that certifies that you are certified!!! > > > > > > -- > > > > > > www.chuckslongroad.info > > > like my web site? > > > take the survey! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=54458&t=54435 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
