At 5:04 PM +0000 9/29/02, Robert Edmonds wrote:
>Here's another benefit I see from certifications like this:  there are
>things that all of us know how to do, but if asked to walk someone through
>it over the phone, couldn't do it.  For example, for me it would be DNS
>configuration.  I can do it, but I can't tell YOU how to do it.  I know it
>just well enough to kind of stumble through it and get it working.  And I
>can get it working CORRECTLY.  It's just that I am weak in that area.  With
>a performance based test in a lab situation, I could pass by getting it to
>work, but I may not be able to answer the question correctly on paper.  And,
>in my opinion, it's more important to be able to "walk the walk" than "talk
>the talk".  What do you think?

You make some excellent points. I think it's more than a binary "talk 
the talk" vs. "walk the walk," the first being answering tests and 
the second being demonstrating performance.

It's long been a Cisco instructional principle that people learn in 
different ways. Some are visual, some are conceptual, some are aural, 
and some are tactile (i.e., hands on). I tend to be visual and 
conceptual.

You describe a very real-world requirement to "talk the walk" -- to 
teach something, which is yet another skill set. Mind you, I find 
that teaching or the equivalent writing is a good way to learn.

Mind you, I'm trying to complete the matrix and figure out what "walk 
the talk" would be--the ability to listen without using your mouth? 
:-)

Howard




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