About a century. 
The oldest Portugese Mandolin I've ever known of was dated (I think) either 
1908 or 1909. The tuners were weird !  Top was flat, back very slightly curved. 
  
Kevin.   
   
Brad McEwen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Martina:
   
  yes, there is a Portuguese flattopped mandolin.  They usuallly have fan style 
tuners like the guittarra.  In fact, they look like a diminutive guittarra but 
are a mandolin.
   
  I don't know how long they've been making them that way, though.
   
  Brad

Martina Rosenberger  wrote:
  I have no knowledge about Mandolins, the Walddoline is just a sideline of my 
Waldzither research. The dates of the brand-list are correct.
But as B=F6hm got his ideas from the portuguese guitar, isn't there a 
portuguese flat-top mandolin? I must admit, that I have no clue, since when the 
portuguese mandolin is built as a flat-top.
Sure one of you can help.

Martina Rosenberger

"KEVIN LAWTON" schrieb:
> 'The earliest confirmed occurence of flattops they've 
> come up with, is the C. F. Martin model introduced in 1914.' 
> Frank. The statement above does not seem to be up to your usual levels of 
> accuracy and intelligence. Would you care to review it - or should I just 
> argue anyway ? 
> Kevin. 
> 
> Frank Nordberg wrote: Martina Rosenberger wrote:
> .
> > There is also legal protection found for the brand 'Walddoline', an 
> inventive word from Wald (forest) and Mandoline in 1905 and 1909. If 
> there are no other examples of flattop-Mandolins elsewhere, yes, I can 
> proof the existence in Hamburg with excerpts from the registered 
> brand-list .
> 
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