Anne:  Are you going to anymore shows in the next three months?  Are you
taking your puppies with you?

I want to say to you, don't worry about what has been going on with the
notes.  I believe everything you do is for a good reason and will stand
behind you in anyway I can, though I don't think I am a big
"standerbehinder" in the cavalier list.

I am just so happy I got to meet you in Kentucky.  It was so great talking
with you and listening to all the info you have about these cavaliers.
Thank you.  I could really learn a lot from you.  You are a very bright lady
and I admire you for it.

I am not sure what the future holds but I would like to go to another show
(of course, not showing--just watching) perhaps in January or February
(depending on our weather and all the flight problems we might have).  My
daughter would like to also go, altho she was with me last time and we had
forgotten she is allergic to dogs.

By the way, I plan to get another puppy in the next 2 1/2 years -- I don't
know what color yet, but am leaning towards another tri.  I think they are
beautiful.  Hope you are doing okay and please keep in touch (if you can).

Have a nice winter (I am sure it will be much much better than ours).  We'll
talk again soon.  By the way, Meggie says "hello" to you and tells you she
is doing very well in her obedience class every Wednesday night.  What a
difference in her attitude around other "big" dogs.  We have three more
weeks and then she graduates.  We're having a ball.  Gayle
----- Original Message -----
From: "Anne Shapiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2001 6:02 PM
Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] checkered flag? yellow flag? red flag?


> Having had Cavaliers and young children at the same time (our oldest
daughter now 22 was just 2 when we got our first Cavalier) I feel mildly
qualified to comment about placing Cavalier puppies in homes with children.
>
> First-if you ever have a nagging doubt about placing any puppy with any
family, with children or without, DON"T DO IT! This is the same advice I
give to people looking for a breeder-use your instincts as they are usually
dead on. This is why I never tell someone inquiring about a puppy that I
have one available. Using the words "I MIGHT have something for you" allows
you to kindly tell someone about whom you are uncomfortable that
unfortunately you have decided to place the puppy with a friend. I then try
to voice my objections about this home by saying something like "you know,
you might want to consider waiting until 1)you aren't working such long
hours 2)your youngest child is a bit older" or whatever the case may be.
Follow this by asking the person to keep in touch and perhaps later on you
may have a puppy for them.
>
> This is supposing that your worry is indeed a correctable one-a totally
unsuitable person is not going to listen anyway so just saying no is all you
need to do.
>
> Now as for children........as others have said, it totally depends on the
individual child and even more importantly, on the parents.
>
> Cavaliers and children are a wonderful combination, but only under the
right circumstances.
>
> I have placed Cavaliers in homes with mulitple children and in homes with
toddlers. But my decision was based almost exclusively on how the family
interacted ,how the parents treated the children and on how well the
children listened. A child who runs around my house, grabbing at books and
things on the end tables with Mom and Dad just saying no over and over,
child not listening and parents unable or unwilling to use effective
discipline techniques is not one whose family is ready for a dog-at least
not one of mine. Children who listen when Mom and Dad speak to them, who
stop an unacceptable behavior when asked, who are curious and interested in
the dogs without being abusive have a pretty good chance of having a dog
placed with them.
>
> And NO child, even my own perfect (HA!) little angels or my grandson (who
is indeed perfection in my eyes no matter what his parents tell me) should
ever, ever be left alone with any animal until they are at least 5 years of
age. The child is not the Bad Seed, the dog is not Cujo-they simply cannot
communicate effectively and this can lead to disaster for both.In addition,
the parents need to understand that they will be caring for the dog-"getting
a dog for the child" is a misnomer as no child under 12 is disciplined
enough to think of the dog's needs consistently.
>
> So, with certain cautions and conditions, placing a puppy with a family
with children can be a good idea. But placing a puppy when there is any
nagging doubt whatsoever in your mind, is never a good idea. IMHO.
>
>
> Anne Shapiro
> Shadowlawn Cavaliers
> Las Vegas, Nevada
> www.shadowlawn-cavaliers.com
>
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