I would rather do these things myself as well. I feel that checking the viability of your own boys sperm, being able to collect them as needed and inseminate your own bitches is part of breeding management. Not necessary to do it yourself, but more desirable. Myra Savant
>From: Carol Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: The Cavalier King Charles Spaniel List ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] CKCS-L Digest - 7 Oct 2001 to 8 Oct 2001 (#2001-628) >Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 13:01:35 -0700 > >Hi Tina: > >I do not know how everyone does it. I am sure there are people out >there who circumvent the paperwork when doing it themselves. Of course, >when I receive the semen, the papers are signed by someone but I have no >way of knowing for sure what has gone on at the other end. Neither does >anyone else. Same thing as with shipping your bitch. If you aren't >there with her, you don't know how the breeding was done or to whom, >you trust the stud dog owner to do the right thing. My vet knows I have >done this for years and she observes. As to the DNA question, yes, I >DNA my dogs. > >I have NEVER heard of anyone "forcing" the pipette into the bitch. It >should slide in easily and, at the least resistance, you stop. If I >heard a "popping sound" I would be hysterical!!!!! I don't even know >how many bitches of many different breeds including several Terrier >breeds, Shelties, Yorkies, Brussels Griffons, Great Danes, Goldens, etc. >that I have done for people with great success and NEVER heard that >sound or had to "force" the pipette. that is ghastly!!! So, I guess >what I am saying is that I just did regular AI's with no problems. It >is done very gently. The person I learned from has been doing it this >way for over 30 years and has never had a problem. > >The reason I learned to do it myself is that I didn't like the way the >vets at that time did these things and the person who was doing them for >me felt I lived too far away from her so she taught me how. The vets >really didn't know how to collect a dog properly and furthermore, the >majority of them, unless they are specializing in repro., still do not >know. At that time, reproduction was not something they had learned in >vet school, at least not to the extent we use it. I do not do AI's >anymore for other people as it became almost a fulltime job (it seemed >like that anyway) and I already had a full time job. :) > >My personal opinion is that there are a lot of vets who want AKC to >require that they sign the papers and do the work so AKC complies How >in the world does a vet know which dog or bitch you are using? Only the >breeder knows that. So, if you have to use a vet for the purpose of >identification, I think it's totally silly. > >Carol Williams > >========================================================= >"Magic Commands": >to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL >to start it up gain click here: >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL > > E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. >Search the Archives... http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html > >All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 1999 by its original author. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ========================================================= "Magic Commands": to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL to start it up gain click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. Search the Archives... http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 1999 by its original author.
