Myra The same applies here in the UK the certificate only lasts for a year. We can get a litter screened up to 13 weeks old - no individual certificate is issued - just one certificate that identifies each puppy individually. The chap I go to likes to screen a litter at between 6 and 8 weeks he says that the colouration hasn't developed at that age plus the fact that they don't wriggle as much and seem to be mesmerised by the light from the scope! I might say that there is a lot of controversy over the KC/BVA scheme and quite a few breeders I believe are now using specialists that issue the European certificate
Annette ----- Original Message ----- From: "Myra Savant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 1:41 AM Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] eyes > It is my understanding that it is recommended to have eyes examined yearly > because the CERF certification is good for only one year. Seems to me like > a way for the CERF people to make money, but I am told by others that it is > a way for the CERF people to maintain their data base, and I don't have an > argument with that. Our eye guy says the same that Peggy is saying. If > they are examined as pups for retinal folds/dysplasia, they are good for > life except for the development of J. cataracts, or corneal problems. On > another list, we had a lengthy discussion about the age at which they should > be examined for folds and dysplasia. Myra Savant > > > >From: Annette Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: The Cavalier King Charles Spaniel List > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] eyes > >Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 00:52:58 -0000 > > > >Peggy > >I understand that the ophthalmologist here in the UK are advocating testing > >annually until the dog is either 6 or 7 - I forget which without looking it > >up in the files. Apparently there is evidence (how much I know not) that > >some Cavaliers are developing cataracts at about four years old - again I > >have only half the information because I have no idea what number have been > >diagnosed. No doubt I should be able to get some information of our health > >rep. if you are interested. > > > >Annette > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Peggy Mickelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 12:44 AM > >Subject: [CKCS-L] eyes > > > > > > > Now, here's another topic we can discuss...... > > > Brigitte Falch wrote: > > > > when I inquired about him I was told the only testing > > > >results they could supply hard copy on was eyes 'a couple' of years > > >ago. > > > > > > It is my understanding that if a Cavalier's eyes are cleared and > >CERFable > >even once that there is nothing new that can develop that is genetic EXCEPT > >for what used to be called juvenile cataracts...and anyone following the > >protocols about not breeding dogs/bitches unless their parents are heart > >clear at 5 would also be aware of > > > any juvenile cataracts that exist and the potential for developing them. > >Of course, nobody is breeding dogs that carry the potential for juvenile > >cataracts, right? So why test eyes every year? Can we get some informed > >discussion on this? > > > Peggy > > > > > > ========================================================= > > > "Magic Commands": > > > to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: > > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL > > > to start it up gain click here: > > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL > > > > > > E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. > > > Search the Archives... http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html > > > > > > All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 1999 by its original author. > > > >========================================================= > >"Magic Commands": > >to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: > >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL > >to start it up gain click here: > >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL > > > > E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. > >Search the Archives... http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html > > > >All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 1999 by its original author. > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > ========================================================= > "Magic Commands": > to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL > to start it up gain click here: > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL > > E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. > Search the Archives... http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html > > All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 1999 by its original author. ========================================================= "Magic Commands": to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL to start it up gain click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. Search the Archives... http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 1999 by its original author.
