Jeanie, I was merely trying to acknowledge that access to testing may be more difficult in some places than others. My apologies if my words were misconstrued. It is difficult to convey tone via the internet. Some of the previous impolite posts may have gotten a few of us into the mood to look for malice where there is none.
When I take puppies for an ophthalmology exam, a technician meets me in the waiting room to put drops in the puppies' eyes. The eyes dilate while I fill out their CERF forms. When we get into the exam room, he literally takes less than 5 minutes per puppy. Maybe we do live in a doggy breeder's utopia! I am not questioning anyone else's practices....merely explaining that for us, it's no big deal. As far as the question of hip xrays, veterinarians have an obligation to protect their staff from excess radation. Therefore, any dog that will not lie quietly on its back would have to be sedated or anesthetized My cavaliers have generally been of the couch potato temperament that causes them to go to sleep when their belly is rubbed, regardless of position, but I realize that all dogs do not have the same temperament/activity level, and all vets aren't willing to try something out of the ordinary. For those situations, I liked JoAnn's idea of having xrays done at the time of anesthesia for dental work. It was not my intention to deride or dismiss Australia. As a matter of fact, I believe that I was the first on the list to cite studies that suggested Australian cavaliers may have a later average onset and/or decreased incidence of endocardiosis. This thread started while trying to define "noninvasive". Perhaps the decisions boil down, like most big decisions, to risk/cost vs benefit. In general, I would probably not do a $1,000 screening test for a condition that occurs in less than 1% of the population. But I would do a $20 screening test for a blinding condition that occurs in 5% of the population, or a $100 screening test for a painful condition that occurs in more than 10% of the population. Your risk/cost:benefit ratio may differ, and I respect your right to make a different decision on that basis. Leanne ----- Original Message ----- they must make a bigger deal of it all in Australia. I have never had to > have a cavalier anaesthetized for a hip xray. And an eye exam by an > ophthalmologist takes less than five minutes Leanne ---Original Message--- > Well it seems to me that no matter what I put up on this list, you Americans > know better! > Why can't you just accept at face value what I write - I have to have my > dogs anaesthetised for X ray - My fully qualified ophthalmologist takes more > than 5 minutes to test a dogs eyes. He examines closely, puts in drops then > examines the retina. This takes more than 5 minutes. Leanne I know you are a > physician and I appreciate the sane and sensible posts you put up on the > list but it seems that everything we tell you from other parts of the world > is derided and dismissed. I am only telling you what we have to do here. > What you do in America is your business. We have to work with what is here. > I don't know how many times I have said this but the message doesn't seem to > get through. > It appears that 30 years of experience counts for nothing. > Jeanie > Wow - you must live in some kind of doggy and breeders Utopia! First of all examining eyes isn't simple - it requires several stages of examination of the lids, cornea and retina under different lighting conditions. Jeanie ---Original Message--- I have another question directed mainly to the PremierCavalier breeders - as you are so keen on testing and publishing the results are you all doing MRI scans on your breeding stock to identify potential syringohydromyelia victims? Annette ========================================================= "Magic Commands": to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL to start it up gain click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. Search the Archives... http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 1999 by its original author.
