And how would us lesser mortals perceive a leader to be Dave? Surely someone who has produced consistently great dogs over a long period of time would be regarded as a person who knew what they were doing, had the experiance/knowledge which they were willing to share with others, taken an active role in breed associated activities over that same period of time, written lengthy articles on the breed, educated Judges on the breed?
What other qualities do they need? Why should they have to repeat time after time the same message to the same people - who are obviously not listening or not able to comprehend the message or accept the information offered. Why waste valuable time with such people. IMHO listing the results of your efforts, be it number of Champions, judging credentials etc gives your opinion some credibility and is not self promotion, it is statement of fact. Why do you have a problem with that? Do you not list your credentials in your work situation? to give yourself credibility................ AND as Chairperson of NZKC Judges Association I personally take great offence at your suggestion that those in our breed who also Judge "solicit financed judging assignments for travel and socializing". To cover yourself by saying you haven't put anyone into a category is not good enough. Either name names or don't make unsubstantiated allegations. Dianne Tyssen Prestonville Cavaliers Invercargill New Zealand [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.prestonville.com Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 12:31:07 EST From: Dave Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: International & Experience In a message dated 12/9/01 5:55:38 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My opinion is that length of time or number of champions is not a permanent pass which requires all people of lesser tenure or titles to bow down and worship or carte blanche accept everything said as gospel truth. Though some people think it should be. You will find some get quite offended if anyone dares question them. The true leaders in the breed have the patience to explain over and over until everyone gets it, realizes they don't know everything, are constantly learning, and constantly sharing with everyone they can to help. Without asking for anything in return. The better ones kindly explain things until the person questioning gets it and usually makes their point, shares knowledge, and earns respect. Those who have the tenure but not the true talent tend to lash out when questioned as they sometimes lack the knowledge to back up what they preach or are just too caught up in their own world to realize times have changed and with changing trends and technology maybe the proper solutions/answers have expanded or changed too. Maybe some just don't have the patience to be leaders in the breed. There are two types of people with lengthy experience in Cavalier breeding. Those who have spent years constantly learning and upgrading their knowledge, always with the best interest of the Cavaliers in the forefront. And those who keep practicing the same thing they learned the first couple years over and over with their heads in the sand to changing trends and technologies. The volume of puppies and flooding of entries at shows slowly but surely upping the number of champions with their name on them. This type is more eager to promote numbers of awards, sell high priced dogs on co-ownerships to keep their name in the forefront, and solicit financed judging assignments for travel and socializing, then they are the primary welfare of the breed. These people have let their dogs as a priority slip behind feeding their ego and maintaining their lifestyle and they now exploit these same dogs to that end. The former type gets listened to. The latter, people are finally getting wise to. No flames please I am not putting anyone in either of the categories listed. Only you know which one you truly belong to. And remember this is coming from someone who has a bit less then 6 years in the breed so I certainly can't have any clue as to what I am talking about. Could I. Dave CastleMyst Cavaliers http://members.aol.com/CMystCavs ========================================================= "Magic Commands": to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL to start it up gain click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. Search the Archives... http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 1999 by its original author.
