We require all of the above, plus we require that the bitch be on Baytril at
least five days prior to breeding, or we need a hooded culture to be taken
with hard copy results to us before the breeding.  Additionally, while we
are just getting started in a breeding program, and still don't have it
firmed up, we also require that we be given first option to buy a second
pick puppy from the litter if the breeder isn't keeping it for themselves.
In other words, since it's our boy who is the sire, we feel that if second
pick pup is being sold, we should have first right of refusal on the puppy.
We must see hard copies on health testing before the bitch arrives.  In
exchange for these things, we provide hard copies of all of our boy's test
results, (OFA, heart, patellae and CERF)  a pedigree, a large color photo of
our boy, information regarding his ancestors going back for several
generations....their age if alive, their condition if known, and the age at
which they died.  We provide hard copies on the heart clearance on the sire
and dam of our boy.  Additionally, we prefer to have a post dated check
written that we hold until puppies arrive.  If there are no pups, the check
is destroyed and the breeding is considered to be null and void, with no
further responsibility on either party's part.  I hope this helps you in
your information gathering Terrie.  Myra Savant


>From: Terrie & Disney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: The Cavalier King Charles Spaniel List
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>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: [CKCS-L] Responses to stud dog survey
>Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 11:35:09 -0500
>
>WOW!!! I am amazed, no wait make that flabbergasted, at the number of
>responses
>I got to what Cavalier stud owners require of bitches for service!!!!
>Four.  No, no,... not fourteen,... not forty....four.
>
>Hmmmm, so, either we have A) only four stud dog owners on the list B) some
>stud
>dog owners are not proud of how they conduct their breeding program or C)
>No one
>in the United States read their code of ethics. Here it is just in case
>y'all
>forgot    CKCSUSA "Try to educate each owner or interested person, and to
>be
>constructive as well as instructive in my comments."  ACKCS  "helping
>novices,
>being truthful in representing your own dogs for sale or breeding,"
>
>I'd really love to hear from everyone. If you feel it is a private matter
>unless
>I plan to use your dog, I understand and respect that. How about writing me
>from
>a bogus, anonymous Yahoo email account. I don't want to judge anyone. I am
>bound
>and determined to learn EVERYTHING about this breed even if I have to annoy
>everyone into helping me just to get me to shut up LOL.
>
>                              Here are what the four people said...
>
>Clearances in writing for Brucellosis, eyes and heart, other health
>information
>if available, copy of pedigree, see the bitch or a picture of her. All
>resulting
>progeny sold on limited, spay/neuter except for show pups.
>
>Brucellosis, clearances on heart, eyes done within 1 year, OFA after 2,
>Patella
>statement from vet, strengths and weaknesses of bitch, reason for wanting
>to use
>the stud in question, discuss bitch's show career and dual registered.
>
>OFA or PennHip clearance, patella clearance, ACVO or CERF and cardio
>clearance <
>one year, Brucellosis, dual registered
>
>Full health testing on bitch same as they require for their own stud(s)
>just
>like what is done in Goldens. This person also provided me with a wonderful
>post
>re: observations made with age/level of murmur or clear heart breedings and
>resulting progeny trends.
>
>
>Kindness and good wishes to all,
>Terrie:)
>
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