There you go then. Have him prepare them while you are gone so you come home to
a fridge full of food.

Cathy

Annette Jones wrote:

> I pass them on to my son who is a chef!! Trouble is he doesn't get home all
> that often and usually these days it's to look after the dogs whilst I go
> tripping off passing opinions on other peoples dogs! VBG
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cathy J. Gish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 3:15 AM
> Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] Microchipping/sorry Annette:(
>
> > Well just pass them on to someone who will invite you to dinner sometimes.
> That
> > usually works....
> >
> > Cathy
> >
> > Annette Jones wrote:
> >
> > > No use Cathy I can't cook!!!! VBG
> > >
> > > Annette
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Cathy J. Gish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:50 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] Microchipping/sorry Annette:(
> > >
> > > > Gee I go away to a dog show and I come back to find I should have been
> > > here
> > > > posting recipes!!!!!!!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > VBG
> > > > Cathy J. Gish
> > > >
> > > > Annette Jones wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Granted Joanne! VBG Shall we talk about the weather now???? or
> > > > > Are you coming over in March?
> > > > > Who else is coming over? Just curious to know who I am going to have
> to
> > > get
> > > > > safely onto the bus on Saturday morning! VBG
> > > > > Of course that will all depend on someone getting me up in time -
> not
> > > being
> > > > > a morning person and all that!
> > > > >
> > > > > Annette
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Jo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 1:37 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] Microchipping/sorry Annette:(
> > > > >
> > > > > > Myra,
> > > > > > The people at AKC don't know me.
> > > > > > None of them know me..I am well known among Cavalier people and
> that
> > > fact
> > > > > > (in this country) is changing rapidly.
> > > > > > First we'll get that out of the way.
> > > > > > The American Kennel Club sent me DNA testing kits..all papers,
> photos,
> > > > > were
> > > > > > sent in at one time.
> > > > > > The breed was Brussels Griffon.
> > > > > > The DNA test is as valid as a tattoo or a microchip. Probably more
> so
> > > > > > because you can never change the DNA...you could change the tattoo
> or
> > > the
> > > > > > chip at any time.
> > > > > > AKC has DNA  in place to identify dogs, it is a clear and
> irrefutable
> > > test
> > > > > > and as such is probably better (in these circumstances) than a
> chip or
> > > a
> > > > > > tattoo.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jo Ann
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > You have stated today that you were able to register an import
> > > without
> > > > > > > either chipping it or tatooing it.  You said that they accepted
> DNA
> > > as
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > form of identification even though the AKC registration papers
> > > clearly
> > > > > > state
> > > > > > > that the import must either be chipped or tatooed.  So....I am
> > > curious
> > > > > as
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > how you were able to provide proof of DNA without having
> registered
> > > the
> > > > > > dog.
> > > > > > >   The import papers do not have DNA information on them, so who
> > > agreed
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > run DNA testing without some sort of a registration number on
> the
> > > dog
> > > > > that
> > > > > > > is valid here in the US?  I'm sorry that you're having a hard
> time
> > > > > > following
> > > > > > > this discussion, but I'm having a hard time understanding how
> you
> > > and
> > > > > > Peggy
> > > > > > > were able to avoid chipping or tatooing your imports, and who
> would
> > > run
> > > > > > DNA
> > > > > > > testing without a valid US registration number on the dog.  I
> know
> > > that
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > > all have been into cavaliers for a long long time and all that,
> but
> > > > > surely
> > > > > > > AKC doesn't invent a whole new Registration of Import system
> just
> > > > > because
> > > > > > > you've been breeding for a long long time.  Myra Savant
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >From: Jo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > >Reply-To: The Cavalier King Charles Spaniel List
> > > > > > > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > >Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] Microchipping
> > > > > > > >Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 20:01:23 -0500
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >They used the import papers. The same import papers  used to
> > > register
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > >dog with the American Kennel Club.
> > > > > > > >I'm lost Myra..what is the problem?
> > > > > > > >JoAnn
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > You mean that the DNA people ran the DNA test WITHOUT a
> > > registration
> > > > > > > >number
> > > > > > > > > from AKC?  Myra Savant
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >Hello again,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >My dogs were DNA tested here in this country. I haven't
> heard
> > > of
> > > > > any
> > > > > > > >other
> > > > > > > > > >countries doing DNA..and in my opinion the test cost is
> more
> > > than
> > > > > > fair.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >Any identification done on an import in this country could
> be
> > > > > false.
> > > > > > > > > >Any test is only as good as the tester, actually.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >As far as ID...if the dog is chipped you need the
> scanner...not
> > > all
> > > > > > > > > >shelters
> > > > > > > > > >have them.
> > > > > > > > > >Most tattoos are very difficult to read in a matter of
> > > weeks...so
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > >best
> > > > > > > > > >bet is to keep the dogs off the streets..said with
> humor...it
> > > is a
> > > > > > > > > >difficult
> > > > > > > > > >problem.
> > > > > > > > > >Jo Ann
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >Jo Ann
> > > > > > > > > > > Well, now I'm really curious.  Does the AKC accept DNA
> > > results
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > > >were
> > > > > > > > > > > done in a foreign country as a form of permanent ID?
> > > Surely, it
> > > > > > > >can't
> > > > > > > > > >be
> > > > > > > > > > > acceptable if done here since there would be no
> registration
> > > > > > number
> > > > > > > >on
> > > > > > > > > >it
> > > > > > > > > >if
> > > > > > > > > > > none had been granted prior to the DNA testing?  Our DNA
> > > tests
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > > >the
> > > > > > > > > >dogs
> > > > > > > > > > > AKC registration number as well as their registered
> owner's
> > > > > names.
> > > > > > > > > >Also,
> > > > > > > > > > > for people who are looking at DNA testing as a form of
> > > ID....if
> > > > > > your
> > > > > > > >dog
> > > > > > > > > >is
> > > > > > > > > > > running loose on the street, a microchip or a tatoo
> might be
> > > > > > > > > >considerably
> > > > > > > > > > > faster as a means of ID than taking weeks to run a DNA
> test.
> > > > > Myra
> > > > > > > > > >Savant
> > > > > > > > > > > >It does not mention DNA. :-)
> > > > > > > > > > > >Jo Ann
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > The paper work for registration does not mention DNA
> to
> > > my
> > > > > > > > > >knowledge.
> > > > > > > > > > > >Myra
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >Actually they do not need to be chipped.  You may
> DNA
> > > an
> > > > > > import
> > > > > > > > > >after
> > > > > > > > > > > >it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >arrives in this country.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >Jo Ann Carvill
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >BJ Cavaliers
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >www.bjcavaliers.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know if you all know this or not, but
> all
> > > > > imports
> > > > > > > >must
> > > > > > > > > >be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >chipped
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > prior to registration with the AKC.  If all the
> > > > > > registering
> > > > > > > > > >bodies
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >required
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > chipping prior to registration of all dogs, it
> would
> > > be
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > >quick,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >relatively
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > painless way of insuring that the dogs are
> > > identifiable
> > > > > in
> > > > > > > >the
> > > > > > > > > >case
> > > > > > > > > > > >of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >an
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