Granted Joanne! VBG Shall we talk about the weather now???? or Are you coming over in March? Who else is coming over? Just curious to know who I am going to have to get safely onto the bus on Saturday morning! VBG Of course that will all depend on someone getting me up in time - not being a morning person and all that!
Annette ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 1:37 AM Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] Microchipping/sorry Annette:( > Myra, > The people at AKC don't know me. > None of them know me..I am well known among Cavalier people and that fact > (in this country) is changing rapidly. > First we'll get that out of the way. > The American Kennel Club sent me DNA testing kits..all papers, photos, were > sent in at one time. > The breed was Brussels Griffon. > The DNA test is as valid as a tattoo or a microchip. Probably more so > because you can never change the DNA...you could change the tattoo or the > chip at any time. > AKC has DNA in place to identify dogs, it is a clear and irrefutable test > and as such is probably better (in these circumstances) than a chip or a > tattoo. > > Jo Ann > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You have stated today that you were able to register an import without > > either chipping it or tatooing it. You said that they accepted DNA as the > > form of identification even though the AKC registration papers clearly > state > > that the import must either be chipped or tatooed. So....I am curious as > to > > how you were able to provide proof of DNA without having registered the > dog. > > The import papers do not have DNA information on them, so who agreed to > > run DNA testing without some sort of a registration number on the dog that > > is valid here in the US? I'm sorry that you're having a hard time > following > > this discussion, but I'm having a hard time understanding how you and > Peggy > > were able to avoid chipping or tatooing your imports, and who would run > DNA > > testing without a valid US registration number on the dog. I know that > you > > all have been into cavaliers for a long long time and all that, but surely > > AKC doesn't invent a whole new Registration of Import system just because > > you've been breeding for a long long time. Myra Savant > > > > > > >From: Jo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Reply-To: The Cavalier King Charles Spaniel List > > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] Microchipping > > >Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 20:01:23 -0500 > > > > > >They used the import papers. The same import papers used to register the > > >dog with the American Kennel Club. > > >I'm lost Myra..what is the problem? > > >JoAnn > > > > > > > > > > > > > You mean that the DNA people ran the DNA test WITHOUT a registration > > >number > > > > from AKC? Myra Savant > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Hello again, > > > > > > > > > >My dogs were DNA tested here in this country. I haven't heard of any > > >other > > > > >countries doing DNA..and in my opinion the test cost is more than > fair. > > > > > > > > > >Any identification done on an import in this country could be false. > > > > >Any test is only as good as the tester, actually. > > > > > > > > > >As far as ID...if the dog is chipped you need the scanner...not all > > > > >shelters > > > > >have them. > > > > >Most tattoos are very difficult to read in a matter of weeks...so the > > >best > > > > >bet is to keep the dogs off the streets..said with humor...it is a > > > > >difficult > > > > >problem. > > > > >Jo Ann > > > > > > > > > >Jo Ann > > > > > > Well, now I'm really curious. Does the AKC accept DNA results > that > > >were > > > > > > done in a foreign country as a form of permanent ID? Surely, it > > >can't > > > > >be > > > > > > acceptable if done here since there would be no registration > number > > >on > > > > >it > > > > >if > > > > > > none had been granted prior to the DNA testing? Our DNA tests > have > > >the > > > > >dogs > > > > > > AKC registration number as well as their registered owner's names. > > > > >Also, > > > > > > for people who are looking at DNA testing as a form of ID....if > your > > >dog > > > > >is > > > > > > running loose on the street, a microchip or a tatoo might be > > > > >considerably > > > > > > faster as a means of ID than taking weeks to run a DNA test. Myra > > > > >Savant > > > > > > >It does not mention DNA. :-) > > > > > > >Jo Ann > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The paper work for registration does not mention DNA to my > > > > >knowledge. > > > > > > >Myra > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Actually they do not need to be chipped. You may DNA an > import > > > > >after > > > > > > >it > > > > > > > > >arrives in this country. > > > > > > > > >Jo Ann Carvill > > > > > > > > >BJ Cavaliers > > > > > > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > >www.bjcavaliers.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know if you all know this or not, but all imports > > >must > > > > >be > > > > > > > > >chipped > > > > > > > > > > prior to registration with the AKC. If all the > registering > > > > >bodies > > > > > > > > >required > > > > > > > > > > chipping prior to registration of all dogs, it would be a > > >quick, > > > > > > > > >relatively > > > > > > > > > > painless way of insuring that the dogs are identifiable in > > >the > > > > >case > > > > > > >of > > > > > > > > >an > > > > > >========================================================= > > >"Magic Commands": > > >to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: > > >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL > > >to start it up gain click here: > > >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL > > > > > > E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. > > >Search the Archives... http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html > > > > > >All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 2002 by its original author. > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > > http://www.hotmail.com > > > > ========================================================= > > "Magic Commands": > > to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL > > to start it up gain click here: > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL > > > > E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. > > Search the Archives... http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html > > > > All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 2002 by its original author. > > ========================================================= > "Magic Commands": > to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL > to start it up gain click here: > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL > > E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. > Search the Archives... http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html > > All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 2002 by its original author. ========================================================= "Magic Commands": to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL to start it up gain click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. 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