Not to beat a dead horse, but did anyone else get the letter from the board
of the ACKCSC today?
I  read it to my husband and his comment was "It's about time!"
All the best,
Susan Cochran


----- Original Message -----
From: "PAMoesinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 9:33 PM
Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] cavs at AKC shows


> Well Robin.......for a newbie you seem to already have a "feel" for the
> difference in quality between the two show venues.  The AKC ring seems to
> get the "second string" from alot of breeders and the more typey ones are
> shown in CKCSC shows.  Although......every CKCSC show has exhibits that
> should be a pet in someone's home.  Probably due to the fact that the
CKCSC
> shows are judged by breed specialists and AKC shows are judged by many
> inexperienced, uneducated people.  I have personally been in the presence
of
> breeders that evaluated their litters as to CKCSC potential and AKC
> potential.  Personally, if a dog isn't good enough for the breed
specialist
> judges......I wouldn't show it in AKC either.
>
> And this is not an invitation to open up the CKCSC vs. AKC debate.  Both
> venues have their faults!
> pam
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Robin McLeod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 2:06 PM
> Subject: [CKCS-L] cavs at AKC shows
>
>
> > I hope you all don't mind a newbie jumping in on this
> > AKC conversation.  I just spent three days at the
> > shows in Ft. Worth this past weekend.  Before this,
> > I'd been to one AKC show and one Club show, each time
> > as an observer.  The AKC show was last November, so I
> > really didn't have much of an eye for anything (not
> > that I do now either LOL).  The Club show was in
> > Columbus, so was more recent.  I thought the cavaliers
> > at the Club show were gorgeous.  I used my time
> > watching to try to pick up on differences in structure
> > and movement.  I was even lucky enough to sit next to
> > a couple from the UK who gave me an informed running
> > commentary -- one of the best "lessons" in cavaliers
> > I've ever had!
> >
> > So, then there were these three days in Texas.  There
> > were some nice looking cavaliers, but in general, I
> > was struck at how "different" some of the entries
> > looked.  One blenheim entry was almost entirely white,
> > with only one marking on the show side and "blonde"
> > versus chestnut coloring on ears.  Another blenheim
> > was not heavily marked, but had *lots* of ticking all
> > over the body.  A third cavalier had *no* stop, not a
> > cavalier head as far as I could tell.  As I remembered
> > the beautiful heads and markings of the blenheims I
> > saw in Columbus, I found myself wondering if I was
> > seeing a difference in the quality of cavaliers in AKC
> > versus CKCSC?  If that is the case, it still doesn't
> > make sense to me that Club breeders would place "show"
> > potential cavs for AKC shows that they wouldn't mind
> > seeing at a Club show.  Am I making sense here?  I
> > guess as a newcomer, I am expecting to see cavaliers
> > that first exhibit *type* at an AKC show.  Then
> > judging is on structure and movement?  But then maybe
> > I was spoiled by all of the beautiful cavs in
> > Columbus.  Or, maybe I just have a *lot* more to
> > learn.
> >
> > It just doesn't make sense to me to see "cavaliers" in
> > the AKC ring that don't really look anything like the
> > beautiful dogs I've seen, and then complain that
> > judges don't know *type*.  How will they ever begin to
> > consistently recognize *type* when exhibitors aren't
> > bringing typey cavs to the ring?  And, how will
> > newbies like me ever know better about bringing a
> > nontypey cavalier to the ring if a breeder sells
> > something like this as a show-potential cavalier?
> >
> > Set me straight please!
> >
> > Robin (and Teddy)
> > Minnesota
> >
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