In a message dated 3/30/02 9:50:28 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << The original discussion stems from my statement that in my opinion, winning in group is a better indication of your dog's quality than winning it's class. I based this statement on the fact that the AKC shows up here are often so small. Your dog may have won winner's dog by competing against a total of 5 cavaliers. When our dog used to take winner's dog by beating a handful of cavaliers, that wasn't as meaningful a win to us as when he placed fourth in group the other day. The group win was, in my opinion, a better indication of his quality. Yes, I believe that my feeling would be exactly the same even if there weren't points awarded for placing in group. It is just my opinion, however, but wasn't shared by any one else. LOL >>
Myra you originally wrote: The real "showing" isn't done at a class level. It is done at a group level. For too many years, cavaliers were judged in sort of a vacumn because they were judged only against each other. It was almost like 'just go for the pretty head because all the rear ends are so bad.' So, they didn't have to develop that kind of structure that they needed to compete with a poodle, for instance. It is important to remember that they are dogs. They need to be built like a dog. ***************** So now I am confused - are you talking AKC or CKCSC because since Cavaliers have been allowed in the AKC they have been competing at Group level and there have been many that have won group placements as well as Best in Shows. Are you trying to say that just suddenly now .......... we have good moving dogs that are worthy of a win? Just because a Cavalier entry is small - doesn't mean a good dog can't go further in the Group -just means a judge didn't feel there was any quality at that particular show - or that the quality of other breeds was superior. Am curious as to our original staement where you talked about Cavaliers being judged "in a vaccum" was that directed at your small WA shows or Cavalier specialties? Barb Hoorman Benchmark Cavaliers - TX ========================================================= "Magic Commands": to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL to start it up gain click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. Search the Archives... http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 2002 by its original author.
