In a message dated 6/1/02 11:46:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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> Edward, along with most of us, I receive those e-mails as well......"do you
> have a Cavalier and how much?" type of inquiry.  I give them the same amount
> of time, but I do attach a document that provides questions to ask breeders
> which include questions on health-testing, etc.  On the one hand, I don't
> want to spend too much time as they are probably, as you say, just canned
> questions sent out to as many breeders/brokers.......whomever they can find
> associated with Cavaliers........as they can find.  But, I do feel some
> responsibility to educate everyone......just in case....just in case they
> are
> genuine and want a Cavalier and just don't know how to approach a breeder.
> And, if that is so, then at the least they will have something to go by.
> n


My response to an email is always the same...short and polite with a request
that they call me on the phone.  I tell them I will be happy to speak with
them and to answer any questions that they might have as well as possessing a
great deal of information that they will find helpful in their search.  I do
not answer any of their questions in the hopes that they will call.  About
70% of them do.  But I never answer the accompanying questionnaire.  I ignore
it.
I personally find the "canned"questions quite annoying and have stopped a few
who sound like they are reading from someone else's questionnaire and asked
them to throw that piece of paper in the trash and ask me questions they want
answer to....but first I would like to know a bit about them and their
families.  A few times I have asked them to read me the questions they were
sent by other breeders and then asked them which answers they are looking
for?  What would be the right answer?  Not one person has ever said that they
know which is the "right" answer.  They don't know.
For instance.....How long have you been breeding?  Well, is it better to be
on your first or second litter or someone who has bred 30 litters a year?
They don't know.  Am I more ethical or more likely to provide you with a
better pet if I breed 1 litter a year or if I breed 6?  They don't know which
is the "right" answer.
I read a questionnaire today that was brought to my house by a prospective
buyer stating that if the breeder does not require the purchaser to spay and
neuter they are probably not an ethical breeder.
I want someone who can think for themselves and come to my house and meet me
and my dogs.  Then I will be the one doing the sizing up.  I am the one who
will tell them what my f requirements are for those who are fortunate enough
to acquire a puppy from me.  Those things include following my advice about
what this puppy will eat and most importantly they have to promise to follow
my vaccination protocol.  Then they can decide if I am the kind of person
they want a life-long relationship with.
Every single person who has ever called my home or sent me an email has been
invited to come and visit and see my dogs and even if I have nothing
available I suggest that they see what a good Cavalier should be like.  By
that statement I am not talking show v. pet quality.  I mean temperament and
overall good health.  I want them to see my dogs as they relate to one
another and how friendly and loving they are to total strangers.
One evening last week I had 2 consecutive calls from puppy buyers and both
told me that I was the first breeder who was kind enough to talk to them.
One woman told me she had found a breeder in the Midwest who would have sold
her a puppy but she changed her mind when the breeder would not send her the
pedigrees and health documents first.  Upon further conversation I learned
who this breeder was...one of the top winning breeders in the CKCSC who does
also show in the AKC and has mainly won with dogs she has bred herself.  I
explained that if they had gotten to the point of choosing a puppy I was sure
she would have gotten her information.  As we spoke I asked her how she had
approached all these breeders and most of them came from calling from the
internet and tracing websites.  As she questioned me from her list I told her
that the reason she had such trouble with good breeders was that her
questions were quite insulting and that she probably turned off every good
breeder she contacted.  I explained that she would have gotten her papers
with her puppy and that if someone wanted to see my dogs pedigrees and my
health certificates they were welcome to come to my house and I had no
intention of sending them to a total stranger.  The other woman told me she
was flying to see a puppy and told me the name.  I inquired on the list about
this woman and received a few private posts that were quite negative.   When
I wrote to give her this information she called me and told me she was going
anyway.  She said she had spoken to so many people who were not helpful and
this lady in Florida told her that she had health certificates on her puppies
"from her breeders."  I asked if that were not a "clue" that she was not the
breeder but bought from others....making her a broker/puppy mill.  She said
that this was one of the few people who would answer her questionnaire.
There was another man who had emailed me and I had written and told him I did
not have a puppy for him but suggested he call and I would help him find a
breeder.  I wrote him back a week later to ask if he had found a puppy yet
(had not heard from him) and he told me he had found a breeder and gave me
the state.  I asked who it was and when he told me I knew I had heard of this
woman.... confirmed by Cavalier rescue that she should be avoided.  He wrote
back and told me that she was one of the few people who would correspond with
him by email.  Here is what he said..."> Thanks again for your candor and
> advice. I sincerely appreciate both. We have found it difficult to acquire
> information from most potential breeders via e-mail, and I am very
> skeptical of people who will only talk on the telephone (similar to meeting
> someone in a parking lot to transfer a puppy)."

This is a very nice man, I am sure, who is trying his best to find a puppy.
Where he got the idea that someone who will only talk on the phone is like
transferring a puppy in parking lot is beyond my comprehesion.  But this is
also a man who was told to email breeders and send them a list of questions
for them to answer.  On the contrary, I tell people to call breeders and be
nice and just talk about their family and ask if there are any other
questions the breeder wants to know.   I explain, that although they may find
this hard to believe.....they are the ones being interviewed to see if they
are good enough for our precious dogs.   Certainly I educate them on the
health concerns and tell them that they must see the health certificates from
certified specialists, etc.  But I suggest this comes up in the course of
conversation.  Many of my well-meaning fellow breeders, in their desire to be
helpful and keep these buyers away from the puppy mills and importers are
accomplishing just the opposite by giving these buyers the impression they
are being irresponsible if they don't interrogate all the breeders they talk
to.  That definitely won't endear them to me.
My inclination is to resent their attitude that they are passing judgment on
me.  Personally, I have come to enjoy telling them to throw that
questionnaire in the trash and will then go on to have a pleasant and
productive conversation.  Unfortunately, it seems many others will just brush
them off.  On the other hand, the anxious puppy millers and importers don't
seem to have a problem answering all of these questions even though most of
their answers are lies.  (My family breeds these dogs in Ireland......Oh, we
don't need to test our dogs since it is just the ones in the US that have
MVD, etc.)
Thanks for letting me vent....I needed that.
Phyllis


Phyllis Lasser
Welmforth Cavaliers
Wyckoff, New Jersey





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