Glenn, First you have to teach what you want. Yelling and saying "no" has no meaning to the dog. Actually, yelling may encourage barking as they think you're getting into a game with them. Before I share what I'm doing, let me tell you that Keno is getting more vocal every day, so this "quiet" training is ongoing, but he does understand and really tries to control himself; however, he can't go to a dog show, training anywhere without "talking" to everyone and everything. But's he's learning, slowly, "sssh". When he barks, whines, etc., I say, quietly, "sssh." He responds to the sound by looking at me and being quiet for a brief moment. I immediately tell him good dog, good sssh. When he starts to "talk" again, and he will in his excitement, I shush him again. He is again quiet for a moment and gets praised. The third time he starts making noise I'll give a sharp jerk on his collar with a more emphatic "quiet". Ssssh is sort-of like a calming signal where "quiet" is a that's enough command. This time he has to be quiet for a longer period of time before getting praise. You can also do this around the house, using negative reinforcement. When crating dogs during dinner or for any other time my rule of thumb is all the screams and barking in the world will not get me back in that room until the dog is quiet for at least 5 minutes in a row. Never reinforce whining, crying, barking by giving in. You may have to go back and retrain. For example, just put one dog in the crate with a treat (I always give a treat when crating), and leave the room. When she is quiet for 5 minutes, go let her out without saying anything. Nothing. Just let her out and go about your business as if she isn't there. Never make a big deal out of letting a dog out of a crate. If barking and crying is already a bad habit, you will have to really be strong and wait her out. BAsically, what you are doing is rewarding quiet and ignoring (actually negative reinforcement as the dog is not getting attention for these behaviors). Sooner or later, depending upon how determined your dog is, she will figure out that when I scream, bark, etc., nothing happens; however, when I'm quiet I get what I want. As you increase the time in the crate with a quiet dog, go in and tell her how good she is being quiet and give her another treat. Then leave the room for 5 minutes. Then go back and let her out. It may take awhile, but your guys will learn, if you are consistent and always reward in some way desirable behavior (quiet) and never reward undesirable behavior (noisy). And overt punishment, whether vocal or physical, extinguishes undesirable behavior, especially if there has been no reward for doing what you want. Like in children, sometimes any attention is better than none.
Whining and crying at class can be very distracting. I would definitely get her to learn to be quiet in the crate at home before crating at class with all the distractions. Sometimes covering the crate so she can't see out and leaving her with a chew toy at class can help. I personally prefer to take both of my dogs to class because, due to my job and other demands on my time, class is the only time my guys get out to train. Good luck. Susan Jackson >From: Glenn Fulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: The Cavalier King Charles Spaniel List ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] Is it cruel to leave one home alone? >Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 04:03:17 EDT > >In a message dated 7/9/2002 3:08:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > Whining > > is not allowed! The Cavalier (Keno) is a complainer, my Boxer (Windy)is > > not. > > So Keno sometimes needs to be reminded "No whining." :-) > > > > Susan Jackson > > > >That's the part I am having trouble with. I have never figured out how to >stop whining and barking. Even when we put the dogs in the crates to eat >dinner they whine and bark all through dinner. Charlie is a whiner,,, he >cries and cries. Dixie is more a barker,,, and it's a bark like nails on a >chalk board. Yelling and saying no just seems to invigorate her more. >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Glenn Fulton >Cincinnati/Mason >permission to forward granted > >========================================================= >"Magic Commands": >to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL >to start it up gain click here: >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL > > E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. >Search the Archives... http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html > >All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 2002 by its original author. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world�s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ========================================================= "Magic Commands": to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL to start it up gain click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. Search the Archives... http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 2002 by its original author.
