I don't feel that it SHOULD be imposed upon the AKC members, unless they make the choice to use a dual registered dog. I view it like this: If someone comes to me and asks to use my Robbie at stud, I tell them that I like to see health clearances on their girls. If they don't want to get the girl tested, then they usually pass on Robbie and go to another dog anyhow. So, it wouldn't be any difference. It would be: If you want to use a dual registered boy, then you will need to be sure your girl is age appropriate, and has at least an eye, heart and hip clearance in order to breed to him. It really is up to them whether or not they would choose to use him from that point on. We are a very close knit group up here whether we dual register or whether we don't. Of course, there are occasional differences among us, but basically, we all test and we all use the same specialists to do our testing. We cheer each other on at the AKC shows. We are very open about our test results and it seems increasingly silly for us to be sitting at the same health clinics, holding equally nice, tested, imported dogs, one dual reg, one AKC only, and knowing that for some pretty counter-productive reasons, we can't breed to each other's dogs. Just plain silly. Now, what I want to know is what it would take for the people who are opposed to it to accept it. What is their comfort level and level of acceptance. Myra
>From: "Susan A. Schlenger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: The Cavalier King Charles Spaniel List ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] Educating the Members >Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 11:31:00 -0400 > >But, Myra, > Those "concessions" may not be acceptable to AKC members; after all >why >should they agree to a standard for their dogs which isn't imposed on >CKCSC, USA dogs or dog from ANY OTHER PROVENANCE including overseas >puppymills? Perhaps if the standard was imposed on *all* dogs whose >provenance was not of CKCSC, USA origin, it would be fair. However, I >don't see that happening, do you? > >I understand your moderate stance, but I doubt that it will feel good to > AKC breeders. > >Warm Regards, > >Suze > >Myra Savant wrote: > >>Yes, you are absolutely correct. However, I feel that if we don't make >>some >>concessions concerning the health testing requirements, it will simply >>never >>pass a vote of the membership. To me, it's like giving a little to get a >>lot. Myra >> >> >>>From: "Susan A. Schlenger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>Reply-To: The Cavalier King Charles Spaniel List >>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] Educating the Members >>>Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 11:11:34 -0400 >>> >>>Hi, Myra, >>> My difficulty with this is that it isn't *imposed* on members of >>>CKCSC, >>>USA. Should this be a requirement in order to breed to AKC dogs, then I >>>think it should be enforced for all members of CKCSC, USA. Something >>>about geese and ganders comes to mind. <G> >>> >>>Best, >>> >>>Suze >>> >>>Myra Savant wrote: >>> >>>>We have people on this list who have been completely opposed to the idea >>>>of >>>>registering and breeding to AKC dogs. Maybe we could ask for a cool, >>>>calm, >>>>discussion of what it would take for them to feel comfortable with the >>>>situation. I would like for the proposal to follow the guidelines >>>>of the >>>>MVD protocal, 2.5 years old and fully tested with 5 year old heart clear >>>>parents, and for both clubs to co-sponsor some educational seminars and >>>>booklets. >>> >>> >>> >>>-- >>>Suze at Llawen Cavaliers >>>"...I have seen that in any great undertaking it is not enough for a man >>>to depend simply upon himself." -Isna Ia-wica >>>"Thought comes before speech" Luther Standing Bear >>> >>>========================================================= >>>"Magic Commands": >>>to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: >>>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL >>>to start it up gain click here: >>>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL >>> >>>E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. >>>Search the Archives... http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html >>> >>>All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 2002 by its original author. >> >> >> >> >> >>Myra Savant Gardengate Cavaliers >> >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: >>http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx >> >>========================================================= >>"Magic Commands": >>to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: >>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL >>to start it up gain click here: >>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL >> >>E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. >>Search the Archives... http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html >> >>All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 2002 by its original author. >> > > >-- >Suze at Llawen Cavaliers >"...I have seen that in any great undertaking it is not enough for a man >to depend simply upon himself." -Isna Ia-wica >"Thought comes before speech" Luther Standing Bear > >========================================================= >"Magic Commands": >to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL >to start it up gain click here: >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL > >E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. >Search the Archives... http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html > >All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 2002 by its original author. Myra Savant Gardengate Cavaliers _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ========================================================= "Magic Commands": to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL to start it up gain click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. Search the Archives... http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 2002 by its original author.
