Winnie, I don't follow the protocol and the last visit to Dr. Jacobs all 13
Cavaliers cleared. If you throw out the 3 that were a year old, the average
age was over 4 years-- some as old as 5, 6, and 7. I follow my own protocol
of loading the pedigree with oldies and linebreeding to oldies. It seems to
work very well. I have even heard of one of our boys who lives in Atlanta
who is almost 17 years old.

I admit that I placed emphasis on temperament and health over looks until
just recently although we do have some very pretty dogs as well. Also, I
took a detour to study color genetics that lasted about 10 years and now I'm
working on getting the looks for showing some of ours again, without
sacrificing the health or temperament. It isn't easy as some of the show
stock has been bred for looks over health and temperament and you never know
it until you breed to them.

In genetics, there is always more than one way to get from point A to point
B. Some ways are faster, some ways are less risky, and some ways promote
slow steady improvement, but there is always more than one way. It like
using a gun. A rifle, a pistol, and a shotgun will all kill someone, but
each has its advantages in certain situations.

All the best,
Susan Cochran


----- Original Message -----
From: "Winnie Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 12:13 AM
Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] Ruminations


> <<< Also, please tell me which tests would be required, and who makes the
decisions
> <<<about what tests are appropriate, what guidelines would be used, etc.
>
> and,
>
> <<<Help me to understand how a bunch of laymen are going to determine all
of the
> <<< guidelines for health testing.
>
> I'd like to pop in here with an answer.  To begin with it would be nice if
breeders
> would simply follow the suggested protocol which was NOT written by "a
bunch
> of laymen" but noted geneticists. It would be a start - and a good one.
>
>
> Winnie
> Columbus, NC
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Myra Savant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > Ok.  I'll agree Charlotte,  if you can help me to understand why it's
okay
> > for me to breed to the 9 month old, completely untested dual registered
boy
> > next door, but not okay for me to use an untested AKC only boy.  Also,
> > please tell me which tests would be required, and who makes the
decisions
> > about what tests are appropriate, what guidelines would be used, etc.
At
> > what age do we accept a murmur, at what age do we accept arthitic
changes in
> > the joints, at what age do we accept a cataract and at what age can the
> > patellae start slipping?  Who decides these things?  Will a letter from
your
> > vet stating that he thinks there may have been an injury to the hip
work, or
> > just a letter from you?  Which tests are most important and at what age
> > should they have been administered in order to most correctly predict
the
> > genetic baggage that the dog is carrying versus age related disorders?
Do
> > we have to test for clotting disorders and diseases of the thyroid?
Help me
> > to understand how a bunch of laymen are going to determine all of the
> > guidelines for health testing.  I already asked this question once today
and
> > got not a single answer.  Can you help me?  Myra
>
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