I was watching "Pleasantville" again and it reminded me of this whole argument.
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 6:39 PM, Joost <jo...@zeekat.nl> wrote: > On 21 dec, 15:38, kyle smith <the1physic...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Martin, you're trying to argue that some hypothetical 'unwashed > > masses' of programmers won't like clojure because of parenthesis. The > > problem is you're just assuming it's the parenthesis, and there is no > > way to know for sure (short of a peer-reviewed study). Maybe java > > programmers don't know about clojure because they're corporate drones > > and couldn't care less. Maybe they're not allowed to use clojure at > > work. Maybe (as others have said) clojure is just more mental work > > per-line and that turns people away. > > As long as we're just speculating about the great unwashed I want > everybody to note that Java was written with the great unwashed in > mind, and look where it got us :) > > IMO many Java programmers (and especially their managers) think > dynamic type resolution in large-scale projects is scary. And you know > what, they may even be right. Ofcourse that completely ignores the > kind of code-reduction (and project-size reduction!) it can bring, but > it's a somewhat valid point. To those people: learn Haskell, THEN > complain about Lisp syntax. :) > > The other thing that probably feels new and scary is the whole build- > everything-from-expressions standpoint. You know; the side-effect free > emphasis. This is something that every non-embedded programmer will > have to let go of soon anway, so let's ignore that, except to note > that it's not surprising that Erlang - which has been around for 15+ > years - has only getting some real attention in the last couple of > years. Again also: Haskell. > > Once you get those two big ones out of the way, there is no reason at > all to assume that it's the parentheses that are actually holding > anybody back. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Clojure" group. > To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with > your first post. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<clojure%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
