Speaking for me only: Let a million IDEs bloom. I'm just expressing my interest in there being at least one that allows new users to download/install/edit/run code with minimal work and minimal prior knowledge.
The only reason I can figure that anyone would think this is bad is if he/she has a financial interest in Clojure getting popular enough to spawn jobs, but not popular enough to spawn programming competition! -Lee On Jun 28, 2010, at 6:00 PM, Brian Hurt wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 5:46 PM, cageface <milese...@gmail.com> wrote: > I don't think the goals of making Clojure a little > easier to start with and keeping it a "professional" language are > necessarily totally at odds but efforts to build something like > Processing or even DrScheme on it seem misdirected. > > > Isn't it? What's the solution to "Clojure supports too many different IDEs" > other than "support fewer IDEs"? The same goes for the "Clojure supports too > many different make systems". > > One of the reasons you don't learn to fly on a 747 is that the thing has 12 > fuel gauges. I'm not kidding. There are 6 different fuel tanks around the > plane, and each fuel tank has 2 different gauges (google "Gimli Glider" for > why this is so). This allows the professional pilot can then use this to his > advantage (pulling fuel from different tanks over a long flight to help keep > the plane in trim). But to the newbie pilot who just wants to know if he's > about to run out of fuel or not, having 12 different fuel gauges does not > help. Having 12 different supported build systems, or IDEs/editors, is not > unlike having 12 different fuel gauges. > > That said, I have no problem with there being a DrClojure environment kicking > around, designed for the beginner programmer- so long as that is not the > *only* supported environment. Which means if your complaint is that there > are too many build systems or IDEs to choose from, too much choice, I have no > sympathy for you. > > Brian > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Clojure" group. > To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your > first post. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -- Lee Spector, Professor of Computer Science School of Cognitive Science, Hampshire College 893 West Street, Amherst, MA 01002-3359 lspec...@hampshire.edu, http://hampshire.edu/lspector/ Phone: 413-559-5352, Fax: 413-559-5438 Check out Genetic Programming and Evolvable Machines: http://www.springer.com/10710 - http://gpemjournal.blogspot.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en