I want to take your class! :-D BTW, just one more nudge for IntelliJ. I don't know if you noticed this as well, but another thing that made me a real fan of it is its startup time compared to NetBeans and Eclipse. Is it me or is it a *lot* faster?
On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:58 PM, Lee Spector wrote: > > On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:19 PM, Michał Marczyk wrote: >> I think that an Edwin-like experience with Emacs would be perfectly >> fine for newcomers to programming. [etc.] > >> >> You could even spend some time (or have your TAs spend it) on a Q&A >> session to address any Emacs configuration issues after, say, the >> first week. > > > I agree. It wouldn't be terrible (assuming clojure-mode), particularly for a > course in which everyone has some programming experience. > > But an editor that obeys OS-standard-ish interface conventions (with at least > minimal language-awareness re: paren-matching & indentation), and that > doesn't require any special attention, would quite a bit better. > > I'm happy because it's looking like there are a couple of options for this > that also provide a lot more (IDE features) and are also getting simpler to > set up and grok. Some (all?) of these do have a few more setup steps than I'd > like, for setting up the system in the first place and/or for setting up a > new project, and/or they require one to understand a few more Java project > organization concepts than I would like just to get started, but on balance I > think these IDEs are now looking better to me than an emacs-based approach. > > I still have to re-evaluate the current versions of the IDEs to decide which > to use in the fall, and if the recent past is prologue they may get even > better before the semester starts. > > -Lee > > -- > Lee Spector, Professor of Computer Science > School of Cognitive Science, Hampshire College > 893 West Street, Amherst, MA 01002-3359 > lspec...@hampshire.edu, http://hampshire.edu/lspector/ > Phone: 413-559-5352, Fax: 413-559-5438 > > Check out Genetic Programming and Evolvable Machines: > http://www.springer.com/10710 - http://gpemjournal.blogspot.com/ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Clojure" group. > To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your > first post. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
